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posted on Mar, 22 2004 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
BTW, the material on Freemasonry Watch has been thoroughly debunked by Brother Ed King on his website:


Ok, again I will say this. 'Debunked by BROTHER Ed King' tells me nothing-- as a matter of fact it does little save make me more skeptical and lend MORE credibility to the Freemasonry Watch link.

"You will forgive me if I don't believe a word of that crap."

Obviously nothing personal, but I feel as if you are passing off blatant misinformation.




posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 02:54 AM
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Did any of you notice that ATS was on the www.crank.net... site!!

Some people have way too much time on their hands!



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 03:48 AM
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you mason bastards are evil and have ties with the kkk and are liars. i dont care whose a mason here i just know theyre an occult because hey, they have alot to hide. if youre keeping track of certain equinoxes then hey, thats pretty much describing that theyre up to things. just like they said earlier, the gay preachers were put in the catholic church from evil. may it be satan. or some wicked 'white' person. i know things happen because there are certain rebellions and anarchys out there that just wish to confuse society. i mean come on, youve got to be an idiot to not think its coincidence that preachers are turning up gay after such perverted events take place in the church. signs are what they are. enough said. the world is ending. and the catholic romans arent enforcing their religion enough to a point that its getting devoured by its worst deceivery.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
you mason bastards are evil and have ties with the kkk and are liars.


Wow, you've just solved the mystery of masonry with one sentence. Well done topsecretombomb. It is posts like this that make ATS so great.......



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
you mason bastards are evil and have ties with the kkk and are liars. i dont care whose a mason here i just know theyre an occult because hey, they have alot to hide. if youre keeping track of certain equinoxes then hey, thats pretty much describing that theyre up to things. just like they said earlier, the gay preachers were put in the catholic church from evil. may it be satan. or some wicked 'white' person. i know things happen because there are certain rebellions and anarchys out there that just wish to confuse society. i mean come on, youve got to be an idiot to not think its coincidence that preachers are turning up gay after such perverted events take place in the church. signs are what they are. enough said. the world is ending. and the catholic romans arent enforcing their religion enough to a point that its getting devoured by its worst deceivery.





Read Wind Swept House, my grandma told me that although it is written as science fiction, the one man who has worked closely with the pope and other for many years names real names, real issues, real problems, and real plans all in the form of fiction.
It is not a ficticious book, and it saddens me to know he commited suicide (yeah right) by chocking himself with piano wires.




Let's not forget another opposition!



Opposition

The Roman Catholic Church has opposed Freemasonry on the grounds that with its binding principles and religious nature, it has usurped the prerogatives of the church. As a result, the Freemasons have never been permitted in some strictly Roman Catholic countries, such as Spain. Freemasonry does not bar Catholics, however, and a great many belong to lodges in Latin America and the Philippines.
Freemasonry has also experienced political opposition. In 1821 William Morgan, a Freemason who had threatened to publish Masonic secrets, was abducted in Batavia, New York. The kidnapping, commonly attributed to Masons, produced an outcry against Freemasonry throughout the eastern and middle United States. In the northern states the Anti-Masonic Party was formed. The party survived until about 1834.

And funny, this guy died under mysterious conditions.




These masons are pretty sloppy when it comes to carrying out plots for murder.


Tisk tisk.

The more you think about the masons in society and i'm talking about the big shots. Think about how balanced their good over evil is........

Cuz if you think about it, it's totally the opposite.
These guys are self serving, they cover up their lies by giving to charity and scholarships.


They really do not do anything for the good of anything except for themselves.

Do some research....

I'll get back to you on this, my grandma told me to call her this week and she's going to send me a bunch of info she's been keeping for years.

Masons..... What a wonderbar bunch. pffff.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 09:48 AM
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Ok, again I will say this. 'Debunked by BROTHER Ed King' tells me nothing-- as a matter of fact it does little save make me more skeptical and lend MORE credibility to the Freemasonry Watch link.


Freemasonry Watch is a hate propaganda site. Ed's website addresses most of their myths, and offers documented facts to back up his argument.
The webmaster of Freemasonry Watch refuses to identify him/her self because these person is fully aware that the website constitutes libel, and if his identity were known, could be sued.
"Libel" is defined as any malicious attack on an individual or group's character with a blatant disregard of the truth. Such is Freemasonry Watch.

For example:

The website continues to propagate Leo Taxil's hoax concerning Albert Pike and Lucifer, even though this story was proven fraudulent over a century ago. Last year, Newsweek published a special edition called The World's Most Famous Hoaxes, and included the Lucifer hoax in a satirical article called "Devil In A Red Fez".
Point by point, any researcher can debunk Freemasonry Watch without breaking a sweat, it doesn't exactly require a Ph.D in rocket science to see those people are a few french fries short of a happy meal. Hell, just read "topsecretbomb"'s post.


Fiat Lvx.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 10:18 AM
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i was thinking about joining the masons because there is a "lodge" just a few town over which is nothing but a small bulding.
There is even a masonic sign as you drive into town which makes me wonder how secret can this society be?



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Eternal
i was thinking about joining the masons because there is a "lodge" just a few town over which is nothing but a small bulding.
There is even a masonic sign as you drive into town which makes me wonder how secret can this society be?


That sounds silly i mean if theres a sign then how the hell can it be secret as you so rightly say, i mean it make it sound like a joke doesnt it?



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by drunk
That sounds silly i mean if theres a sign then how the hell can it be secret as you so rightly say, i mean it make it sound like a joke doesnt it?



Yeah it does sorta sound like a joke.
To me the Masons are no different then, say, my local Lions Club.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 12:41 PM
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To me the Masons are no different then, say, my local Lions Club.


In its practical organization, that's pretty accurate. The overwhelming majority of our members view the fraternity as a type of civic club, as well as Masonic appendent organizations such as Tall Cedars of Lebanon and Shriners.
I'm a Lion also, and there are obvious parallels between societies like Lions Club and Freemasonry. Probably the only fundamental difference is that Masonry admits members through its traditional series of initiation, and that Masonry has a philosophical base. Otherwise, these societies are pretty much the same.

Fiat Lvx.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 01:05 PM
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Has anyone ever seen the masonic symbol on some of the members cars???
its a pentagram!!!!
john wilkes Booth who assisinated lincoln was tied to the Rothchilds who funded both sides of the civil war ....the london rothchilds funded the north ....the paris Rothchilds funded the south...
Lincoln created greenbacks that were interest free
threatening the Bankers who were and are controlled by the global elite who are tied to the masons,the rothchilds were all masons
Masons who are on the lower rung do not know of the heinous purposes of the upper echelon masons...thereby they think its just a nice social club,dedicated to science,and all the nice good things.
some body mentioned they hold charities and benefits for things like scholarships and what not....well so does the mafia and mafia kingpins ...they do this to generate trust and to let people think they on there side



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
Has anyone ever seen the masonic symbol on some of the members cars???
its a pentagram!!!!


The popular car decal with a five-pointed star represents the Order of the Eastern Star, not Freemasonry. But even if we decided to adopt a five-pointed star symbol for Masonry, the question would still be So what?


john wilkes Booth who assisinated lincoln was tied to the Rothchilds who funded both sides of the civil war ....the london rothchilds funded the north ....the paris Rothchilds funded the south...


Please provide your sources. As a historian, I would be very interested in seeing yor evidence.


Masons who are on the lower rung do not know of the heinous purposes of the upper echelon masons...thereby they think its just a nice social club,dedicated to science,and all the nice good things.


This odd claim has alreay been debunked in other threads about Masonry on this message board, to which
I refer the reader. But I will point out the obvious inconsistency of these people who mke such claims: they themselves apparently believe they are "experts", even though they've never set foot in a Lodge in their lives. They really know absolutely nothing about Masonry; instead, they read a few weird articles, and not having the facts at hand to differentiate truth from fiction, adopt the weird stuff.
Yet they think people who have spent years in Masonry don't know "what's going on". It's actually more comical than offensive.


Fiat Lvx.

[Edited on 23-3-2004 by Masonic Light]



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 02:40 PM
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john wilkes Booth who assisinated lincoln was tied to the Rothchilds who funded both sides of the civil war ....the london rothchilds funded the north ....the paris Rothchilds funded the south...
Lincoln created greenbacks that were interest free
threatening the Bankers who were and are controlled by the global elite who are tied to the masons,the rothchilds were all masons
Masons who are on the lower rung do not know of the heinous purposes of the upper echelon masons...


It sounds like you've read "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs. I read that book, too. I enjoyed it, however, I wouldn't take Mr. Marrs' text as gospel truth. A lot of the quotes and "facts" that he uses come from other conspiracy theorists' texts. These are hardly what you would call unbiased or objective sources. Take a moment to sift through the bibliography and you'll see what I mean.

In my opinion he does a poor job of substantiating his claims and sometimes his transitions from one topic to the next were a bit abrupt.

On another note...I've been involved in debate for many years, and in many instances I've had to argue both sides of an issue. By the same token, I've heard others argue both sides of an issue so effectively, that I've had difficulty choosing which side to believe.

The point is: don't believe everything you see, hear or read unless you've personally exhaustively researched the topic. Otherwise, you will be letting others draw conclusions for you. This doesn't just apply to the "Elite", it can apply to "Conspiracy Theorists", too.




posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 08:11 PM
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A few years ago i attended a wedding at a Masonic hall, it was really nothing special, there was a kitchen area, a lounge and a place for a dj and the wedding guests to dance. I wondered as i looked over all the portraits of the members on the wall where the actual great hall was? I started discussing the fact that there was no hall to one of guests i knew who had booked the place and he made the wisecrack 'what are you looking for, the ark of the covenant?'

I laughed and made my way to the bar for another drink. Looking through the kitchen area i saw a door that had some inscription on it and thought to myself "voila!" Waiting around for nobody to look i opened the door and snuck inside. I stood there for a second looking at the twin columns and some of the other decorative insignia on the wall. All of a sudden a voice from nowhere asked 'what are you doing inside here?' I spilled my jack and coke all over my shirt and jumped about three feet in the air and noticed an elder lady sitting in a chair by the door hidden in the darkness. I tried to explain that i just wanted to see the interior of the hall as i had an interest in the Masons. I was told to immediately leave and she got up to escort me out. I apologized for the intrusion all the while trying to convince her that my intentions were not devious.

After a while and a few more drinks i noticed that two or three older men that were not at the wedding or the reception showed up and promptly all dissapeared into the hall. I got the feeling i should leave right then and there but didn't, after about thirty minutes the men and the lady came out and she pointed me out to the three men. They just looked over and that was it, i was not confronted and left shortly after that.

My question directed at any Mason reading this is this:

Did i violate a sacred space? My whole intent was to get a glance at the hall and leave, i was not there to touch things, just look from the doorway and i told the lady this. I know of other Masonic halls that open themselves up to historians for research purposes but i have to wonder why my curiousity was met with such strong resistance.

Any help with this would be appreciated.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 09:07 PM
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Did i violate a sacred space?


No. When a meeting is in progress, only Master Masons in good standing are allowed to be admitted, but at non-Masonic functions, anyone can enter.
When my Lodge hosts public functions, such as fundraisers or banquets, we always give our guests a tour of the building. Also, many Lodges display photos of their Lodge Hall on their websites.


Fiat Lvx.



posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Eternal
i was thinking about joining the masons because there is a "lodge" just a few town over which is nothing but a small bulding.
There is even a masonic sign as you drive into town which makes me wonder how secret can this society be?


The best place to hide is right in front of your face.

I, myself, thought about joining the masons-- there's a lodge in the city here where I live in Jersey. But then I thought about it, and realized I didnt wanna be a part of something I didn't have enough information on. Further attempts to gain information have led me to a lot of information such as found on ATS, but... there are a lot of blanks, and there weren't enough answers for me to feel satisfied enough to join.



posted on Mar, 29 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Aeon10101110
Like Wiley, many males in my family are "Free and Accepted Masons," which is a long tradition. Actually, it could very well be about ten generations now. Nothing spooky at all about my forebears, mostly farmers who gradually moved west. They were all hard-working men with very traditional values and interests.


I think it would be interesting for you to hear about the stories of the persons in your family tree who didnt join the Free Mason, just like you and your bro did. Maybe they gathered info or disscused about it

[Edited on 29-3-2004 by Desmond]


Qos

posted on Apr, 2 2004 @ 01:26 AM
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Hello to everyone, and hope all is well. This topic is somewhat interesting I have read most of the forum here and obviously read and heard my own side of the story, to join this group you are approached by a free mason and are appointed, you cant just join the Club, Muslims believe they are Satanists and are the Soldiers of the anti-Christ(although most of them may not know this), as you all know it is said that they have many secrets, and are a secret group; that is no longer an issue as more and more people are familiar with this organisation. But I still wouldnt believe there nice lines of Moral values and how they are helping people because they have none. One thing is defiantly true manipulation is an Art they master.
What is the point of sending a message onto this bored if ur not giving out some new information outNothingNeo Conservatives
Thats a good place to start.



posted on Apr, 2 2004 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Qos
...to join this group you are approached by a free mason and are appointed, you cant just join the Club...


Incorrect, a man must ask for a petition to join and have two members to sign his petition. A man may not be solicited for membership into Masonry.


...I still wouldnt believe there(sic) nice lines of Moral values and how they are helping people because they have none...



Then I guess that those Scottish Rite speech and language clinics and Shriner's Hospitals for children are just figments of people's imaginations then? The are over 350 Masonic charities receiving $2 million dollars a day in donations, mostly for children. What have you done lately for underprivileged children?



posted on Apr, 2 2004 @ 12:17 PM
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Hey! What about them knights of Columbus????


BTW... Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting things to say about the Catholic Church, Masons, Illuminati, etc.

Never underestimate the power of conspiracy!

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