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Why am I labeled racist for being proud of my white heritage ?

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posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:03 PM
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I was beginning to wonder...

Wow...so much vitriol. Waah, waah...I'm white, I'm sooooo picked on...

Oh, please to stop the silliness. Oh, bye the bye, with every post they make, several here in are proving beyond a doubt that they are indeed, (gasp) rascist.

Pride in one's heritage is cool, it all depends upon how you express that pride. Most "white pride" parades, in my experiance, wind up becoming megaphone wielding rants against "mud people" or the evil "Jooooos", or homosexuals, or whatever flavor of the day bogeyman strikes their fancy. Then the lovely little paranoids top off their exciting day by screaming "white power" or some equally stupid slogan...

Italian-american. African-american. German-american. Irish-american. Who cares? Howzabout just plain American? Same goes for any country that has a deep multicultural culture. Identifying with where your great granddad and grandmother came from back in the day is all very well and good, but it may keep one from experiancing what other cultures have to offer.

Do it, or don't...it matters not in the end. You are hurting no one but yourself by languishing in your self imposed racial isolation...




posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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What? Now you are grasping at straws. First of all you are comparing an entire race to a surname, "jews" vs "smiths".

As I said, Jews make up 2% of the US Population. That's not a very "big background" for an entire race of people.

Yet they make up 75%+ of politicians and 90%+ of media in the US?

Come on. There's a conspiracy here by the elite, who are Jewish.

Keep denying it though and return to your brainwashing by the elite. I don't care, I'm just trying to educate you.

I just find it hard to believe you can be so close-minded on a CONSPIRACY site like ATS and deny that there is a conspiracy going on, when it's so blatantly obvious.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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Then go back to Europe

Fact is, we can't segregate the population. It's impossible, the most we'll get is minority groups isolated to ghettos, which we already know doesn't work.

The thing I find hilarious is that the moment that the OP thought that he was being discriminated against based on his skin color he was ready to:


Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
I mean I could start something, but i'd go nuts and turn into the next hitler, i know that for sure...

hmmm what to do....


Meanwhile, that's what most minorities have had to deal with for hundreds of years.

Now, there are some who decided it would be a good idea to start something. Here's a short list.

Tim McVeigh (Attempted to incite the race war described in 'The Turner Diaries')
'The Order' (Group based on 'The Order' from The Turner Diaries murdered shock radio host Alan Berg)
Uncle Adolf (You know)
That Douchebag who decided to shoot children at that Jewish daycare center
Those jackasses who love to burn black churches

And it's almost like race relations have actually gotten better between races because of these absolutely polarizing figures and events in history. After all, who wants to side with a guy who has no problem blowing up a daycare center to make his point.

And as for white people not being allowed to celebrate their heritage, Have you ever been to Boston on St. Patrick's Day? No problem there at all.

The issue doesn't come when people proclaim pride in their people, it comes when people proclaim the racial superiority of their people, when the people at those types of rallies usually wouldn't get the 400 SAT points for spelling their name correctly.


[edit on 5-6-2008 by Rasobasi420]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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Why should you be proud of your skin color? You didn't choose it. You didn't work extra hard to be born with whatever colored skin you have. It's not a reward for anything.

This question is directed at *EVERYONE* who marches in a racial pride parade, not just white people or the OP or any other group.

Be proud of your own individual accomplishments, and things you had a direct hand in doing. Pride in anything else is unjustified. Being proud of your "family history" or your "racial background" is like being proud of discovering that lightning is electricity because you and Benjamin Franklin both wore glasses.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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You're right, toasted, i apologize.

This is exactly why race cant be discussed in a civil manner.

I get worked up, not because i think blacks are better than whites
and not because i think that whites are better than blacks
but because i see topics like this turn into the very thing that makes the issue of race a problem

it becomes white people saying "IM NOT RACIST because...black people did this"

and vise versa for black people


stop your bickering, because in the end, yer all dirt or ashes anyways.

[edit on 5-6-2008 by QBert]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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That must have been quite the load to get off your chest, huh?

For the record, Islam is a religion, not a race. The so called discrimination you've suffered is a religious one.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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It's ironic, you would have no qualms about calling hitler evil for his supposed extermination of the jews and his supposed eugenics programs, but you have no problem exterminating every other race and just creating "one race" of "one color".

LOL.



[edit on 5-6-2008 by DonBlack]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:11 PM
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Another thing, Rasobasi, while i agree with a lot of what you said

Stop bringing up the St.Patricks day crap!!!

its not celebrating "BEING WHITE"

It's celebrating a saint. Its no different than valentines day or what the retail stores have turned christmas into

While i disagree with a lot of what this thread has turned into, all i am saying is the OP was saying

Blacks can openly celebreate being black and call it "IM PROUD TO BE BLACK"

but whites can't, unless they want to be labeled racist.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
reply to post by Animal
 


Yes...but my point was that this is how ALL other races would see it, because they are racist towards whites in general...

They can't just see the march as "oh, well everyone else does it, why can't they...."

Nope, they have to scream "racist"


SOD,

I sense you are a reasonably smart understanding guy... you even have a uncanny humbleness in you quest for answers to your delima granted you say you are a racist. I respect that to the fullest!

But you must look at the situation from the other side. Everyone knows whites have controlled this country.

1. We all know they wipped out the INDIANS...

2. Stole the south west from the MEXICANS....

3. We all know about dropping nukes of JAPAN...

To culminate all this.... I will put two simple questions to you, to give you some insight as to why many people who helped whites build this country don't like whites taking advantage of their power.

Because as I stated before... (from history)... they know with a gun and a bullwhip you guy's can get way-way out of control!

Here are my questions:

How many black women do you feel were beat and raped by white men during slavery?
VS
How many white women do you feel were beat and raped by black men during slavery?

It's a simple question with powerful long lasting repercussions. Think about it and you will have your answer.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheScribeI think you are missing that whites are the majority in America, and as a white person, we have no idea how it feels to be a minority.


Give it 10 years here in Texas. Hispanics will very soon outnumber whites here, so what happens when we do know what it's like to be the minority and it still holds through? I just think that's a silly argument you are trying to make.

But in reality, here in San Antonio I pay no attention to race and everything is perfectly fine. There is virtually one Hispanic for every one White person in this city and it doesn't bother me or anyone I know. There is a lot of Hispanic pride here out in the open, but no one would dare wave "White Pride" banners from their doors.

However, I'm not entirely sure that's a bad thing. Should we be proud of our history as White people? The African Slave Trade, the Brutal Mass Murdering of Native Americans, etc. I'm not really sure.

[edit on 6/5/2008 by InterestedObserver]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by DonBlack

As I said, Jews make up 2% of the US Population. That's not a very "big background" for an entire race of people.

Yet they make up 75%+ of politicians and 90%+ of media in the US?



First of all, Jews are white........ I hate to be the one to break it to you. As for your numbers, I'd love to see where you got them from. I don't see 75% of politicians being Jewish. Do you mean Senate? Congress? President? Supreme Court?



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by mattifikation
Being proud of your "family history" or your "racial background" is like being proud of discovering that lightning is electricity because you and Benjamin Franklin both wore glasses.


That's quite a stretch comparing race with items such as glasses.

I'm proud of what my race as accomplished. I'm part of that race.

Just as I would be proud that my ancestor (Benjamin Franklin) discovered electricity, if I was his son or grandson, not because him and I wore glasses.

But I'm not the grandson of Ben Franklin, so I can't be proud of him discovering electricity - but by the same token he is white, and I'm white too, so we share a common bond. If Ben Franklin was not white would he have discovered electricity - probably not.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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and, Level X, its because of ignorance of your caliber, that racism still exists.

You blame MODERN DAY WHITE PEOPLE for the doings of white people hundreds of years ago

I never owned a slave
i never shot an indian
and i certainly never dropped a bomb on anyone

and nobody that i know in my life has either

So drop the "its yer history!" bull crap because its what keeps racism alive in teh first place.

Wow. Ignorance is starting to swell in this thread.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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could we close this thread admin as it is going nowhere fast


and is really irrelevant to a conspiracy at all


thanks



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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History has been a huge manipulation

anyone thinking we can all KOOM BAY YAH if the races could just get along

has MISSED the manipulation...

you're right in the middle of it [ the biggest manipulation ever ] and don't even see it.



One of the brothers I work with said it made him angry that he is judged for his skin color.

I told him, he should feel sorry for the guy

He say WHY? I said

because the guy is brainwashed and don't even know it...


The brother thanked me, he never even considered it...



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
First of all, Jews are white........ I hate to be the one to break it to you.


Wow.
And grass is purple. What middle school did you graduate from?
en.wikipedia.org...
Coming from Wikipedia, which is owned by Jews. I think they know what they are talking about.

Let's assume wikipedia is wrong, why do jews have a word, "goyim" that is a derogatory word to refer to white people? DUH.





Originally posted by Rasobasi420As for your numbers, I'd love to see where you got them from. I don't see 75% of politicians being Jewish. Do you mean Senate? Congress? President? Supreme Court?



Senate and Congress.

[edit on 5-6-2008 by DonBlack]

[edit on 5-6-2008 by DonBlack]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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So the thread should be closed just because YOU say so should it?



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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This thread reminds me of a joke my roommate made at work early this morning.

I can't remember his exact wording (which he delivered quite well)

but here it goes:

"Ya know, a lot of races have individuals who say F'd up stuff but not all members of that race are evil. So does that mean all white people are evil? YES!"

Man, I wish I could remember exactly how he put it, it was great.

NOTE:
It's an ironic joke... hopefully no one thinks I am saying whites are evil.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jibbs
reply to post by MurderCityDevil
 


So the thread should be closed just because YOU say so should it?



No, but I think its a great and wonderful suggestion.



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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Don, not only does your narrow minded view lack any perspective, but your practices in syllogism needs work too.

What you're saying is this

Ben Franklin was a great inventor
Ben Frankly was white
I am white too
I am just as great of Ben franklin, so im proud, because we're both white


Being "White" doesnt make the person. Just like being "black" doesnt make the person either.

George Washington Carver made MONUMENTAL discoveries, and he had to accomplish HUGE racial adversity.

But i can honestly say that

I am white
G.W.Carver was black
I am proud of G.W.Carver



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