Very interesting, if disturbing. I'm documenting the evidence in this thread for future reference.
Now my question is, and I have had this question for a few years now, "Do the politicians who become 'our leaders' actually know or suspect any of
this?"
It's similar to the question, "If there was a 9-11 conspiracy, did Bush know about it?" It just seems too obvious. I've often
considered whether figureheads aren't there only to conceal the PTB, but also to take the fall if things go south.
If Obama is being hand-picked (or if the PTB are stacking the deck by selecting he and McCain both,) would either of them even know that? Is it
possible that making the candidates themselves believe they have earned their nomination and then their election is part of the illusion? That's the
tricky part. We can't prove that one way or the other.
The way I see it, there are two possibilities, assuming such conspiracies even really are underway or ever have been (I believe, but can't prove them
undeniably, and as a skeptic must remain open minded). One is that the candidates don't know what's happening, and genuinely have good intentions.
The other is that they're in on it. I'm going to vote based on the possibility of the former, and hope against hope that the latter isn't the case.
I'm going to vote based on what I hope my candidate's intentions are. *sigh*
If that hope is betrayed, however, this may be my first and last time voting.
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reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 02:01 AM by Sheeper
reply to post by AceWombat04
You make a good point. It is always possible they just nurture them and cunningly slide their grip surrounding them without them really understanding just who or what their intentions really are. But when you here about them going to secret meetings and they can't be oblivious to the hear say regarding these institutions it makes me think they are on board. But they obviously can't control everyone short of mind control, I like to think people want to be good and there has to be a gamble in that regard, maybe no one except the very top need to know anyway, once the potus is in power they just use their influence to make things happen regardless of where the presidents heart lies.
You make a good point. It is always possible they just nurture them and cunningly slide their grip surrounding them without them really understanding just who or what their intentions really are. But when you here about them going to secret meetings and they can't be oblivious to the hear say regarding these institutions it makes me think they are on board. But they obviously can't control everyone short of mind control, I like to think people want to be good and there has to be a gamble in that regard, maybe no one except the very top need to know anyway, once the potus is in power they just use their influence to make things happen regardless of where the presidents heart lies.
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 03:17 AM by Phenomium
reply to post by jamie83
Hw is trying to act like one of us?? Ha!
Hillary was the one I saw cam"PAIN"ing out of the back of a pickup truck recently. I have never seen her in any other light save that of a wealthy person until just a few weeks ago when she was trying to 'be one of us'. She would stand in the back of a pickup truck and alter her voice trying to sound like a person from the backwoods country,(you know, like a Texan backwoods hick) it was truly Hill...arious.I also remember her standing in a black church not long before that trying to sound like Dr. Martin Luther King, quoting him and trying to sound like a Nubian native. She's nothing more than a liar and a scam artist and not good at either of them. Maybe SHE was the Medusa and Obama was Perseus and if so..I am forever grateful to him for lopping that snakes head off (figuratively speaking, that is, stand down homeland security...nothing to see here lol), and saving America at least from further embarrassment. She's like an emotional chameleon. Everyone was talking about how she's like an unfeeling, cold woman and what does she do? The very next week she gets on the news and acts like she is CRYING because she loves America so much. There weren't even any real tears.Women all over the nation fell for it and everyone of you who did is a pushover and an idiot for falling for such a blatant attempt to get the popular vote. You all know these politicians lie, play games and manipulate just to give you what you want to see and tell you what you want to hear for all of your hard earned cash and the vote to win and you fall for it over and over.These politicians spend millions in college and spend their whole lives amassing wealth and power and 'YOU' think that 'THEY' are going to give all of that power and money up because 'YOU' vote it so? 'YOU' the typical farmer, car salesman, factory worker, jobless (but of age to vote) etc. They are going to fold their empires and give up all of that power and money because of your vote? I think Bush showed us twice already how much of a joke your votes are.As it is said "All the world is a stage and we are all actors" Hillary is not even a good actor considering how long she's been in the game. What a feminist poser she is. Thank you Obama for dropping the head of that Medusa at the feet of every American Man. You saved us all from embarrassment and a country full of pissed off, hairy legged, tree-hugging, opinionated women who watch too much Xena princess warrior. Doesn't matter who gets behind the wheel of our government we are all getting screwed just like history has always written. Those who still vote and believe this same ol' rhetoric that has been slung at us like feces over the pulpits for ages...how things are going to get better and better, just look around and see for yourself how much your votes have helped us. Yeah, things are so much better than 1914+ and 1945+. I say thank TEXAS for this! They have always taken credit for everything in America because apparently they are so much better than everyone else (even though they are the only ones patting themselves on the back, the rest of the world hates Texas like the dirty kid in the back of the class) So seeing as they ARE America, they should now take the blame for all that is happening in America and Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever else there is an earmark of terror. After all this IS the same George Bush that Texas bragged about before right? I know, I know "Don't mess with Texas" (we've heard it) trust me, no one wants to mess with Texas like no one wants to mess with a leper. Everything is indeed big in Texas... Ego (riding the coat tales of made up history), bellies, mouths and the women there in general. They start out hot but end up like their mothers. Rubenesque and as loud as a parrot with a megaphone. Yep, Texas is why we are all in this trouble. Not Obama.
Hw is trying to act like one of us?? Ha!
Hillary was the one I saw cam"PAIN"ing out of the back of a pickup truck recently. I have never seen her in any other light save that of a wealthy person until just a few weeks ago when she was trying to 'be one of us'. She would stand in the back of a pickup truck and alter her voice trying to sound like a person from the backwoods country,(you know, like a Texan backwoods hick) it was truly Hill...arious.I also remember her standing in a black church not long before that trying to sound like Dr. Martin Luther King, quoting him and trying to sound like a Nubian native. She's nothing more than a liar and a scam artist and not good at either of them. Maybe SHE was the Medusa and Obama was Perseus and if so..I am forever grateful to him for lopping that snakes head off (figuratively speaking, that is, stand down homeland security...nothing to see here lol), and saving America at least from further embarrassment. She's like an emotional chameleon. Everyone was talking about how she's like an unfeeling, cold woman and what does she do? The very next week she gets on the news and acts like she is CRYING because she loves America so much. There weren't even any real tears.Women all over the nation fell for it and everyone of you who did is a pushover and an idiot for falling for such a blatant attempt to get the popular vote. You all know these politicians lie, play games and manipulate just to give you what you want to see and tell you what you want to hear for all of your hard earned cash and the vote to win and you fall for it over and over.These politicians spend millions in college and spend their whole lives amassing wealth and power and 'YOU' think that 'THEY' are going to give all of that power and money up because 'YOU' vote it so? 'YOU' the typical farmer, car salesman, factory worker, jobless (but of age to vote) etc. They are going to fold their empires and give up all of that power and money because of your vote? I think Bush showed us twice already how much of a joke your votes are.As it is said "All the world is a stage and we are all actors" Hillary is not even a good actor considering how long she's been in the game. What a feminist poser she is. Thank you Obama for dropping the head of that Medusa at the feet of every American Man. You saved us all from embarrassment and a country full of pissed off, hairy legged, tree-hugging, opinionated women who watch too much Xena princess warrior. Doesn't matter who gets behind the wheel of our government we are all getting screwed just like history has always written. Those who still vote and believe this same ol' rhetoric that has been slung at us like feces over the pulpits for ages...how things are going to get better and better, just look around and see for yourself how much your votes have helped us. Yeah, things are so much better than 1914+ and 1945+. I say thank TEXAS for this! They have always taken credit for everything in America because apparently they are so much better than everyone else (even though they are the only ones patting themselves on the back, the rest of the world hates Texas like the dirty kid in the back of the class) So seeing as they ARE America, they should now take the blame for all that is happening in America and Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever else there is an earmark of terror. After all this IS the same George Bush that Texas bragged about before right? I know, I know "Don't mess with Texas" (we've heard it) trust me, no one wants to mess with Texas like no one wants to mess with a leper. Everything is indeed big in Texas... Ego (riding the coat tales of made up history), bellies, mouths and the women there in general. They start out hot but end up like their mothers. Rubenesque and as loud as a parrot with a megaphone. Yep, Texas is why we are all in this trouble. Not Obama.
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 05:16 AM by Souljah
Well, I think it is not that simple...
Hillary & Obama In Secret Bilderberg Rendezvous
Those who look like the biggest enemies on television, are in real life actually very good friends. After all, they both have to answer to the same boss at the end of every working day. And they have to get new set of instructions.
Hillary & Obama In Secret Bilderberg Rendezvous
Those who look like the biggest enemies on television, are in real life actually very good friends. After all, they both have to answer to the same boss at the end of every working day. And they have to get new set of instructions.
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 06:24 AM by FlyersFan
Bilderberger meeting tomorrow - June 7th -
HERE
Westfields Marriott in Washington DC
Keep an eye out and see if Hillary, Obama, and/or McCain are seen around that area.
HERE
Westfields Marriott in Washington DC
Keep an eye out and see if Hillary, Obama, and/or McCain are seen around that area.
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 06:27 AM by flice
reply to post by undo
When I read what you wrote about Clinton and the statue of liberty I remembered a rumour about the statue looking like Hillary in the new GTA. I guess the interpretation of the statues look is subjective, but here's some funny points.
GTA IV is produced by Rock Star Games
Rock Star Games is run by Take-Two Interactive
Take-Two Interactive had a change of CEO early last year... who got the seat?
Ben Feder... who used to work for?
Rupert Murdoch.
There was also some rumours about Clinton being presented as a spoof character in the game... a whore. Another way of keeping her down.
[edit on 6/6/08 by flice]
When I read what you wrote about Clinton and the statue of liberty I remembered a rumour about the statue looking like Hillary in the new GTA. I guess the interpretation of the statues look is subjective, but here's some funny points.
GTA IV is produced by Rock Star Games
Rock Star Games is run by Take-Two Interactive
Take-Two Interactive had a change of CEO early last year... who got the seat?
Ben Feder... who used to work for?
Rupert Murdoch.
There was also some rumours about Clinton being presented as a spoof character in the game... a whore. Another way of keeping her down.
[edit on 6/6/08 by flice]
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 07:40 AM by Stormdancer777
Barack Obama's Ties To Nuclear Power
current.com...
About biotec
In ’05 Investing, Obama Took Same Path as Donors
www.nytimes.com...
As I have said before, Obama never seems to KNOW exactly what he is doing.
This nitwit ought to be a great leader.
Judicial Watch: Obama ‘intended to leave no paper trail’
thehill.com...
current.com...
About biotec
In ’05 Investing, Obama Took Same Path as Donors
www.nytimes.com...
As I have said before, Obama never seems to KNOW exactly what he is doing.
Less than two months after ascending to the United States Senate, Barack Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two speculative companies whose major investors included some of his biggest political donors.
A spokesman for Mr. Obama, who is seeking his party’s presidential nomination in 2008, said yesterday that the senator did not know that he had invested in either company until fall 2005, when he learned of it and decided to sell the stocks.
This nitwit ought to be a great leader.
Judicial Watch: Obama ‘intended to leave no paper trail’
thehill.com...
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 07:54 AM by ufo reality
***ALEX JONES WAS ON COAST TO COAST AM LAST NIGHT***
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www.prisonplanet.com...
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This youtube profile has a lot of great video of this event as it's happening: www.youtube.com...
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This is from the AP 2 hrs ago (click on the link and read 12 lines down the page)
hosted.ap.org...
"Reporters traveling with Obama sensed something might be happening...when they arrived at Dulles International Airport after an event in Northern Virginia and Obama was not aboard the airplane."
Dulles International Airport is about 12 minutes away from Chantilly. I'm by no means a conspiracy theorist but the coincidence of Obama's presence in northern Virginia to "campaign" and the Bilderberg meeting seems mighty suspicious.
[edit on 6-6-2008 by ufo reality]
&
www.prisonplanet.com...
&
This youtube profile has a lot of great video of this event as it's happening: www.youtube.com...
&
This is from the AP 2 hrs ago (click on the link and read 12 lines down the page)
hosted.ap.org...
"Reporters traveling with Obama sensed something might be happening...when they arrived at Dulles International Airport after an event in Northern Virginia and Obama was not aboard the airplane."
Dulles International Airport is about 12 minutes away from Chantilly. I'm by no means a conspiracy theorist but the coincidence of Obama's presence in northern Virginia to "campaign" and the Bilderberg meeting seems mighty suspicious.
[edit on 6-6-2008 by ufo reality]
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 08:28 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by ufo reality
Yup I just read that,
Obama Meets With Clinton, His Campaign Dupes Press
www.cbsnews.com...
Personally, I thought this was almost unethical, almost like kidnapping.
[edit on 083030p://bFriday2008 by Stormdancer777]
Yup I just read that,
Obama Meets With Clinton, His Campaign Dupes Press
www.cbsnews.com...
However, Gibbs failed to explain why the press was fooled into believing that Obama would be on the flight to Chicago and why we were not given the chance to de-plane once we learned that Obama would be staying in Washington. He simply said, with a mischievous grin, “We could have sat on the runway for a couple of hours so we decided to go."
Personally, I thought this was almost unethical, almost like kidnapping.
[edit on 083030p://bFriday2008 by Stormdancer777]
reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 08:52 AM by Maxmars
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I noticed that CBS in yet another demonstration of their 'journalistic' integrity failed to mention the coincidental presence of world power brokers meeting 15 minutes away, and how Hillary was an attendee at one of the last ones, nor how they are recognized world-over as king-makers and represent some of the key financial backers of the politicians in this country.
Granted, they probably think it's too complicated for their ignorant audience.
I noticed that CBS in yet another demonstration of their 'journalistic' integrity failed to mention the coincidental presence of world power brokers meeting 15 minutes away, and how Hillary was an attendee at one of the last ones, nor how they are recognized world-over as king-makers and represent some of the key financial backers of the politicians in this country.
Granted, they probably think it's too complicated for their ignorant audience.
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