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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 08:32 AM by jamie83
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Originally posted by skyshow
Especially when it comes to the few posts who actually stand up for this obvious assault on Democrats and especially Obama, that we see here on ATS.
"Assault" on Democrats? You really think it's an "assault" when the light of truth shines on a political candidate's hypocrisy?
It's not an assault on either party to expose the truth. It's an assault on the "politics as usual" that Obama *claims* he's against, and yet
happily benefits from at our expense. It's an assault on the pure ignorance and idolatry of blind partisan politics that causes people to pull the
lever or a candidate just because he has a D or R in front of his name.
I would suggest that you're attitude is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
And by the way, in case you didn't notice, people STILL use the star system to show their support for a good post. That's why this thread has
received 100 stars. ATS members appreciate the truth, not blind partisan support for the Democratic party.
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reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 08:47 AM by Grambler
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You know, I agree with almost everything you say that you want in the top of your post, but I think that Obama is just another tool of the
Bilderbergers and lobbyists. You say that is what Obama means when he is saying change, but a HUGE portion of his voters think when he says change,
he is talking about change in how politics are run. They think he means ending the corruption and practices like having lobbyists control your
platform. Why would people think that?
“I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other
candidate in this race to take on lobbyists — and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown
out the voices of the American people when I am president.”
— Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007
You are being disingenuous to yourself if you think him claiming change wasn't supposed to mean ending this crap. He beat Hillary because this idea
of change, and she stood for almost everything you stated you want. What separated him was that he was going to CHANGE Washington, and not have it
being lobbyists running the show.
You then accuse mean of being a GOP robot. Please, before you post something will you read the thread. I have posted links as to why McCain is just
as bad, if not even worse than Obama. I have stated in about 5 posts that I HATE the GOP and the Bush administration, and yet you accuse me of only
attacking Obama because I'm GOP? I implore you to read my first post on pg. 15. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say how partisanship
allows the powers that be to maintain control. Instead of reading this thread and getting informed about how a group of the same shady world leaders
are attempting to control both parties, you just come at me with partisan talking points. As long as this occurs, no one challenges the PTB.
Both parties are corrupt, and both are severely connected to Bilderberg and the NWO. Try for a minute to put your love of a candidate aside and look
at it objectively (this goes for McCain supporters also). Until you can do that, you will never see the truth.
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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 12:07 AM by royalkingmeaux
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i dont know much about this but i will give my opinion on this if bg is backed by the world elite they may be trying to integrate the nwo to the
public also barak obama does seem a little to good to be true i heard somewhere that zionists think that he might be the second coming of christ but
that seems a little weird perhaps he would be the opposite. just a stab at this topics but whatev
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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 12:29 AM by mystiq
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So now we know how an unknown African-American, a former street organizer made his way from Trinity Church in Chicago to being the Democrat candidate
for President of the United States. He was backed by the Trilateralists and the Bildeberg group, following in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter.
jamie83
No surprise there. "Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George
W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President
Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee"
salvationrevelation.com...
"Obama's mother, Ann, brought to his gene pool a descent from the 17th-century plantation owner Mareen Duvall," he told Britain's Sunday
Telegraph. "She is an ancestor of the Duchess of Windsor."
and
"[Obama] has a rich mixture of European ancestors, including the early medieval kings of England and Scotland, a signatory of the Magna Carta, and,
for good measure, an Irish emigrant from County Offaly," he explained.
www.people.com...
No one votes for anyone that does not belong to 13 Bloodlines. No one is elected who is not preselected.
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reply posted on 28-6-2008 @ 07:19 PM by crontab
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Originally posted by mystiq
So now we know how an unknown African-American, a former street organizer made his way from Trinity Church in Chicago to being the Democrat candidate
for President of the United States. He was backed by the Trilateralists and the Bildeberg group, following in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter.
He wasn't just a street organizer. He was a community organizer, but he was hardly without elite connections before he became a senator. Barack Obama
met his wife, working at Sidley Austin, one of the most powerful law firms in Chicago. He has taught law at the University of Chicago, one of the most
prestigious universities, where many powerful people have attended or been on the faculty. Obama is a member of the Chicago political machine from
where he has derived his support. Obama didn't just get tapped by Bilderberger or anyone else out of nowhere. He worked his way up through the
Chicago machine, and he probably promised, and he will represent the Chicago political establishment as president. In the process, he will probably
weaken elements of the Washington establishment.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:14 PM by Anonymous ATS
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It is interesting to read this thread right after the DNC and the incident with the ABC reporter (See video in link below) I would like to know why
the ABC reporter was arrested for allegedly "trespassing" on the sidewalk in front of the Brown Hotel; although the Brown Hotel states that it
"owns the sidewalk in front of " their hotel. Apparantly, the day before there were several reporters and camerman filming, interviewing, etc and
the Hotel didn't call police. Why this guy the day after? And why did the Denver Police unecessarily treat him so rough? The video was a little
shocking and I am disappointed that ABC is not asking in depth questions and demanding answers about this apparent injustice.
www.abcnews.go.com...
Supposedly the Brown Hotel is reported to be the most swanky hotel in Denver and is a hub for the rich and famous. Who didn't want to be seen? Who
was the Brown Hotel management trying to protect? Curious as to whether any members of the CFR and TLC were staying at this hotel..
I have some digging to do............
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reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:22 PM by toasted
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Does anyone know if McCain visited the Bilderbergers at all?
I believe they talk to both candidates, but I could be wrong.
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reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 04:32 PM by jamie83
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Is anybody surprised that Obama picked one of the deepest connected Washington insiders, Joe Biden, as his V.P choice?
Here's a hint... start googling Biden, his son, Perseus LLC, McGuire Woods, Mark Brzezinski, Smith Foods, and George Soros and see where the trail
leads.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 03:26 PM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by toasted
Does anyone know if McCain visited the Bilderbergers at all?
I believe they talk to both candidates, but I could be wrong.
Lord Rothschild HELD A HUGE FUNDRAISER AND BACKS John McCain and Lord Rothschild is the head of the Bilderbergers in Europe..Google Rothschild and
Bilderbergers and see below for the McCain connection.
rinf.com...
[edit on 5-9-2008 by maybereal11]
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 03:46 PM by Carib194
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Remember what happened after Carter lost the re-election ? We were screwed a long time ago. Imagine if that bullet did kill Reagan...... My question
is this, given the choice who would you vote for ? The Bush puppet or the guy who is gonna piss a lot of corporations off ?
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 02:43 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 02:52 AM by Mdv2
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No matter who you cast your vote, both candidates have ties to the Bilderberg Group and AIPAC (Israel lobby). The situation in the Middle East and
Bilderberg affairs will remain unchanged therefore.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 05:41 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 09:21 PM by Getsmart
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For an analysis of HOW deep Obama is with the Bilderbergers and how they plan to use him to bring in the New World Order, take a gander at this thread
over in the Above Politics forum of ATS:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It is sobering for those who voted Obama, and disquieting for those who opposed his election for the wrong reasons.
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reply posted on 16-11-2008 @ 09:39 PM by toasted
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reply to post by maybereal11
" Lord Rothschild HELD A HUGE FUNDRAISER AND BACKS John McCain "
A guy like that can afford to give the appearance of support that is as sincere as a paint job over rust.
And since it was not anybodys guess who the victor was going to be, I'm going with a dog n pony show
for the truth about the kind of support it really was as opposed to the real thing...
Thanks for the info.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 10:31 AM by tgambill
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Obama is in fact another tool. His advisor before and now is Zbigniew Brzezinski. google this character and you will see that he is Bilderberger
and Trilateralist all the way. The guru of the One World Government.
www.nysun.com...
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