A Call Out to All Countries of the World, page 1


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reply posted on 5-6-2008 @ 01:45 PM by cbass
reply to post by elevatedone



It is far too easy to associate the people of a country with the Gov't of THAT country. How many times have we been guilty of associating an indivdual with his/her family. It seems logical that if a Father is a drug abusing child molester then his kids are probly bad apples too.
Our "FATHER" is as corrupted as he could be, but "WE" still have value.
We are not "BAD." We have to begin to distance ourselves from the actions of our "FATHER" and let our true value as human beings shine thru!
I don't want anyone to die unless they try to kill ME or MY family. Untill
such time let the people who "DIE" be the ones who are resposible for
all of the war to begin with.

Thanks for the kudos.



reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 01:01 AM by ianr5741
AGREE AGREE AGREE


Who wants war? Anyone? Not me...



“Beware of the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry, [who] infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How will I know? For this I have done. And I am Julius Caesar.”



"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience... Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running and robbing the country. That's our problem."
- Howard Zinn, "Failure to Quit", p. 455



"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Herman Goering, Nazi



"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children... Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."
- US President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 5-Star General



"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.

For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out."

- US Major General Smedley D. Butler, United States Marine Corps




"War is Peace." - George Orwell, "1984"







[edit on 9-6-2008 by ianr5741]


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 07:35 PM by cbass
reply to post by alienstar



Pride in what exactly?? Our corrupt Government??
It is one thing to be proud of ones "country" it is quite another to be proud of ones government. Our government is corrupt from the floor up.
Would it phaze me one bit to see D.C. nuked?? Nope!!! As long as a minimal amount of collateral damage was created. I would obviously not
assist in such actions in any way but if it happened independantly of myself
I wouldn't shed a tear. Am I the only one here???Is it just me???
I love the "land" called "America" and our constitution but not the people running our country.....into the ground!!!


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 08:01 PM by cbass
reply to post by alienstar



I never claimed to be a "Patriot." THat word is like "Christian."
If you claim to be either, there are no shortage of people that would have you jump thru hoops to "prove" that you are a "true Christian" or a "true Patriot." Leave me out of that whole mess. O.K. you caught me!!! I'm not a "true patriot". Now can we move on????

[edit on 9-6-2008 by cbass]


reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 12:11 AM by Fathom
reply to post by cbass


Are you insane? I am not part of your apology and do not feel Americans owe the world any apology!
should we also apologize for all the billions we give to poor countries? or all the food we send worldwide?
how about all of the innocents we have saved from vicious dictators?

You are not representative of the Americans that I know and you are a total disgrace! keep your apology and move to Canada or France where you will fit in nicely!

As far as anyone invading America all I can say is GOOD LUCK and
I hope you start with my state and my neighborhood!


reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 12:28 AM by titorite
Originally posted by Fathom
reply to
post by cbass


Are you insane? I am not part of your apology and do not feel Americans owe the world any apology!



Fathom I would say this government (not necessarily you or I) owes at least one nation an apology for genocide. Just as soon as you can find a person with skin as red as the setting sun who can't grow facial hair for squat you might remember that your not native to this land but they were.
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