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Physicists have 'solved' mystery of levitation

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posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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besides, as someone else pointed out on another thread, the news story is from 2007




posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by jaden_x
sounds a lot like they're trying to re-invent the wheel in another way by creating some sort of an electromagnet. might have nothing to do with canceling gravity in any way.


Earth has a magnetic field apply the 'toy' principle against the Earth and see what happens...

Anti gravity gets tossed about a lot but that is like taking matter and anti matter they cancel each other out


Gravity Shielding is what you want... go look that up at LANL


And the magnet toy thing? Seems we already apply that..

Its called MagLev and we are running trains with it and will soon launch into orbit using it..




With a recent $500,000 Phase II contract awarded from the U.S. Department of Defense Small Business Technology Transfer Program, LaunchPoint engineers are now hard at work on an innovative magnetic space launch system.

www.launchpnt.com...







But if your ship can generate a counter magnetic field the effect is the same as anti gravity
in that it repels against the Earth and tosses you into space... then you can slingshot yourself from star to star

As a side note the EM field around your ship can bend or distort light making them 'fuzzy' or even invisible even to radar hence you can't get a clear photo



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Nunny
We are decades from doing so...


HA says you





Originally posted by babylonstew
earth to mars in 3 hours, ands 11 light years in 80 days i recall?
if i can find the thread ill post a link


Hyperspace Quantum Gravity engine
www.freerepublic.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 7-6-2008 by zorgon]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
I've been doing some further research, but hitting some dead ends with needing subscriptions for full articles


Well normally I don't share all my hundreds of gravity papers


But since you asked so nicely...

courses.washington.edu...



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 03:18 AM
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I seem to remember on Stephen Greers AERO website this was one of the areas they wanted people to work on, maybe there is something to this Zero Point Energy crap.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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Zorgon
please fix your quotes

you qouted me as saying we are decades from doing so, then actually put in what i say below that in another quote
i think you will find you used nunny's quote and put ym name on it

cos you made me look like im contradicting myself, and that makes me look silly



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by bringthelight
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this discovery is relevant because on of the things that the ptient told him was to watch for a discovery in the field of physics and this is a pretty big discovery


Watch for some clouds in the sky in the near future.

Vague predictions carry no weight.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 11:55 AM
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No idea what yer talkin about...




posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 12:01 PM
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There are TONS of papers available without subscriptions. Check names like Douglas Torr, Ning Li, Robert Baker, Robert Noevers...


I have a thread on anti-grav. There ARE true experiments being done with it. It isn't just mathematical. However, that brings up an interesting point relating to the namesake of my thread. Dr. Ning Li reportedly left MSSC because she wanted to work up the theory of her "AC gravity", and the school just wanted to keep driving improvements in effectiveness.

Regardless, as of current you really need to look up High Frequency Gravitational Waves and the work of Dr. Robert Baker.

A good start would be:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


As well, the people who did the experiment in the OP have some cloaking research. I have a thread on that here, if anyone would like further info on cloaking:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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The U.S. Government learned how to levitate spacecraft back in
July 1947. The Top hat spacecraft had 3 Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drives
in the lower section. You simply generate artifical gravity 180 degrees
out of phase with the Earths natural gravity wave.
The Roswell crash changed everything.
If we put the artifical gravity wave generators on the International
Space Station they could walk around just like they do on Earth.
It's dual use technology, so NASA is just sitting on the technology.
Until then.....we will just continue to float around on the ISS.
The aliens are laughing us.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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Not high frequency.
High Voltage Electrostatic Power Supplies. - Neon sign type.
Start with 60,000 VDC
2 Copper plates
a good dielectric plastic - polyeurythane maybe
check wikipedia for good dielectric material
bend the copper plate to form a big C.
Sheet of Lead will work as a wave guide.
Observe gravity wave with a simple lazer pointer. - Sears

Go to Moon and claim the $20 million prize from Google!

[edit on 7-6-2008 by Eurisko2012]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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The application of this science seems limited, the article reads that the force they are manipulating becomes weaker exponentially as the distance increase. This is probably not the solution to UFO's as I read in an earlier post, but the applications to make stuff hover could change everything.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by brickhouse32
The application of this science seems limited, the article reads that the force they are manipulating becomes weaker exponentially as the distance increase. This is probably not the solution to UFO's as I read in an earlier post, but the applications to make stuff hover could change everything.


Think even smaller....on the nanoscale.

On the nanoscale the Casimir force causes components to "stick" together. You cannot lube for a quantum force.

Consider now, piezoelectrics....how would you create a consistent stream of energy if the tungston levers in the nano machines stick?

Being able to negate something as basic and fundamental as the Casimir force is a breakthrough in and of itself.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 02:24 PM
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Oh wow, I was expecting to be this some stupid claim by a physicist on drugs in the desert somewhere, but it's actually decent.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to read further into this. It sounds like it doesn't directly translate into actual levitation for 'macro' objects yet.

The image irks me a little, it seems misleading. That's obviously magnetic 'levitation', unrelated to this article... But they've thrown it into the mix anyway. >_<

An image like that with an article on levitation and the people on this board are a dangerous mix. I fear it will be misinterpreted and used to support less valid theories.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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Well...that image is just the news agency trying to put a graphical on the story.

But, if it makes you feel better, here is an article that discusses this very same thing that i put in my "Ning Li" thread back on Feb 16th (you all knew this wasn't breaking news...the report is a year old):

www.technologyreview.com...



As mechanical devices shrink down to the nanoscale, they fall victim to a strange quantum effect that makes their moving parts stick together. But theoretical physicists at the University of St. Andrews, in Scotland, have found a way to turn that effect against itself, producing completely frictionless nanomachines.

Current microelectromechanical systems--used in accelerometers, car air-bag triggers, and optical switches that transfer light from one fiber to another--have moving parts separated by about one micrometer. But that distance will soon shrink to a few hundred nanometers. At such short distances, a quantum-mechanical effect known as the Casimir force--which is too weak to be seen at distances greater than a micrometer--becomes significant. "If you have nanoelectromechanical systems [NEMS] with mobile parts, the Casimir force will be attractive, and the parts will stick together," says Ricardo Decca, associate professor of physics at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. "This causes friction, and these devices will not move."



But don't be too put off by the image that MIT used to illustrate the "levitation" theme....







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