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The Spiritual Nature of Chemtrail Belief

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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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The Spiritual Nature of Chemtrail Belief


www.americanchronicle.com

I will start with prescription medications because I have often heard the idea expressed that those who believe in chemtrails are insane, so I was curious how many were actually on anti-psychotic pharmaceuticals. What I found was that 62% of believers and 76% of non-believers claim to consume no prescription medications at all and for those who do on both sides of the coin, blood pressure and cholesterol medications were the most common, followed by anti-depressants and sleeping medications for the 9% of believers and allergy and asthma drugs for 6% of non-believers.
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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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Here lies the results of the chemtrail survey that was posted months ago.

www.americanchronicle.com
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posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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Thanks for posting that, was very interesting.

Seems to be a strong link between atheism and non-believers, as well as education time. Not sure if that means anything but I (obviously not a chemtrail believer, you can tell by my threads
) do fit quite well into the survey results

Good stuff



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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Hey Oz, don't know what it means either, but interesting I agree. Seems the term believer and non-believer gained a little more depth, huh?



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Vikturtle
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 



Hey Oz, don't know what it means either, but interesting I agree. Seems the term believer and non-believer gained a little more depth, huh?


Sure does. Maybe it would be beneficial to see what people do for a living? I am thinking that those with a science background would be more inclined to be non believers

I am wondering if anyone in the weather industry (like myself) took part in the survey and whether (pun intended) or not the believed or didnt believe in chemtrails. All our science points to contrails being a normal thing and explains how they form and persist so I couldnt see anyone with a similar job as mine believing. Still would be interesting to see



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 08:59 PM
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Well, I ditched all the IP addresses and info that came with the survey, so I have no clue where the folks came from that filled it out. But it does cut a line between the factions, doesn't it?



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 09:03 PM
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Chemtrails are not a matter of belief, they are a matter of knowledge. Either you have seen a plane do atmospheric seeding and leaving unnatural cloud cover instead of the normal quick dissipation contrails, or you haven't and are ignorant about the reality of this as yet undisclosed human endeavour.

As for me, living somewhere where normal air traffic and abnormal airtraffic are easily identified (small airport, island location) I have had the opportunity to observe cloud seeding operations and know that someone high up in governance has to know this is going on, and if we're not being told chances are it's bad and probably not in our best interest.

My guess is we're being softened up by some form of enviromental agression so as to minimize resistance to a global power grab by some band of elitists, all being done on an enviromental emergency cover operation. w



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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I tend to watch forums and message boards and I am often taken aback by how quickly the debunkers arrive when someone mentions chemtrails or aerosol spraying, like ants at a picnic they appear in force. And the most amusing card in the debunkers bag of tricks is the statement that since the beginning of air travel the lines have littered our skies, we just never looked up.


Like ants at a picnic!

Interesting article, I just am not sure what the point is. As far as prescription medications it seems neither side of the issue have many people on meds.


Chemtrails are not a matter of belief, they are a matter of knowledge. Either you have seen a plane do atmospheric seeding and leaving unnatural cloud cover instead of the normal quick dissipation contrails, or you haven't and are ignorant about the reality of this as yet undisclosed human endeavour.


This last quote from the anonymous poster showing at the bottom of the page.



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 09:22 PM
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The prescriptions snippet was just a point to relay and I had to relay one, rules of the board. And although the anonymous poster spoke truth, the fact remains we encounter a lot of chaos when we announce our belief in such an outrageous idea. Doesn't mean the idea isn't truth, but why do we encounter such chaos?



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 09:27 PM
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Got it!

Starred and flagged!



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by interestedalways

I tend to watch forums and message boards and I am often taken aback by how quickly the debunkers arrive when someone mentions chemtrails or aerosol spraying, like ants at a picnic they appear in force. And the most amusing card in the debunkers bag of tricks is the statement that since the beginning of air travel the lines have littered our skies, we just never looked up.


Like ants at a picnic!


Its not so much that the Chemtrail subject brings out debunkers, but rather that it brings out many of the professionals, ex-professionals, and enthusiasts of the aviation and meteorology fields. These folks know that chemtrails are bogus, so they work to defend their hobby and correct blatant ignorance (and even down right fraud) of the topic.

This is like saying that if I posted a thread titled, “Watching Football on TV drops your IQ by 50 points”, and all the football fans showed up to say that it was not true, that they are all government debunkers working for the NFL.

Ignorance of the highest order IMHO.


I will start with prescription medications because I have often heard the idea expressed that those who believe in chemtrails are insane, so I was curious how many were actually on anti-psychotic pharmaceuticals. What I found was that 62% of believers and 76% of non-believers claim to consume no prescription medications at all and for those who do on both sides of the coin, blood pressure and cholesterol medications were the most common, followed by anti-depressants and sleeping medications for the 9% of believers and allergy and asthma drugs for 6% of non-believers.

This similarly proves absolutely nothing, as many with medical and mental disorders go without treatment. To be honest, after having several arguments on this topic in both U2U’s and in Chat, I have come to believe that many Chemtrail believers go untreated for various issues. In the medical field there is a phenomenon known as the non-compliant patient. These are folks who often cannot accept that they, or a loved one, have a problem and seek to blame something totally unrelated for their issues. We see this very frequently in Sleep Disorder patients who do not wish to comply on their Cpap Machines. They will engineer an excuse, other then the truth, so they feel justified in not complying with a doctors treatment. These type of people take great pleasure in misleading others with their errant information, as the more people that they can win over, the more justified they feel in their incorrect beliefs. For example, one of the first threads I participated in on ATS was a person who admitted to being diagnosed with Sleep Apnea, but choosing instead to blame their problems on Discarnate Entities. I have also seen this in Chemtrail arguments first hand.

Personally, I think that this article is very poorly written, in an unprofessional, and biased manor. Did this writer actually go interview pilots, meteorologists, or airport personnel, or did they simply rely on Internet research? It’s not a big wonder to me as why this article exists on someone’s personal blog newspaper, rather then at a credible news source.


[edit on 6/4/2008 by defcon5]



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 11:06 PM
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Thank you for your input. I think it was clearly stated that it was a survey, mostly filled out by chemtrail believers and a few non-believers.



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 11:10 PM
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You mean the part after the first four paragraphs of calling non-believers debunkers and how the author has witnessed this stuff first hand. The numbers on the survey I have no issue with other then the lack of non-believers who were aware of the survey. Maybe the author should have posted an offer to the survey on Airliner.net and other aviation boards.



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 11:16 PM
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Perhaps it should'a, but you can't transend time. I believe it is what it is.



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