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Originally posted by bsbray11
Well since you wonder it: yes, we have considered how "unique" they are. Which is not very. Really the most unusual thing about them, was just how tall they were. And how much redundancy was built in, because the engineers were actively trying to avoid doing anything too daring or risky with such a large structure (largest in the world at the time).
The First Interstate Bank building had the exact same inner core/exterior column arrangement, except it was a lot smaller in most respects, suffered a much worse fire for a much longer period of time, but no real structural damage resulted. And so have a lot of other steel buildings with similar designs, called a "tube" design amount other things (which is also an inaccurate way of thinking of the structure).
I don't know where the idea came from that it's a "unique" design, unless you want to view every single building on the face of the Earth as "unique," which you certainly can if you want to be ridiculous enough.
Originally posted by Insolubrious
sounds like most of you 9/11 debunkers get your tips from the following video:
Originally posted by jthomas
False claim. The term "vaporize" can apply to the aluminum skin. Wreckage of all four planes was found and acknowledged. Why do you insist on believing and repeating falsehoods?
Originally posted by GhostR1der
And where was that wreckage matched via serial numbers to the planes in question.... to this date I have not seen that. There is _NO_ proof the planes which are said to have impacted at any of the sites are even the correct planes.
also to write new amendments to give the government MORE control over your liberties, thus takeing away your rights, little by little, it is just too scary for people like Jthomas and Swampfox, and co. to face.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by Nola213
also to write new amendments to give the government MORE control over your liberties, thus takeing away your rights, little by little, it is just too scary for people like Jthomas and Swampfox, and co. to face.
Still waiting to hear what rights of mine I can no longer exercise......
Are you feeling the gas prices, Since the war began in Iraq?(a direct result of 9/11) Food prices ect. To me these are also things that are being taken away from me and my family by the government since 9/11. No longer can we barely get by, we are in so much debt right now, thanks to Dubya, and his cronies, who all got rich off 9/11
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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
There were put options placed on both airlines that is true. However, if you bother to research the issue, the options placed the first-second week of September of 2001 were not the only times options were placed that year, nor were the total options placed the highest for that year. Further research would show you that BOTH airlines had made quite a few press releases in August/early September about poor performance. IF you were an options trader, you would have been silly NOT to place options on the airlines in August/early September.
Just figured I would do some quick research on this issue.
What seems important and telling about the option purchases is not necessarily the total volume of options placed in the weeks/days prior to the attack, but the ratio, of put to call options placed.
Following content from 911research.wtc7.net:
"A jump in UAL (United Airlines) put options 90 times (not 90 percent) above normal between September 6 and September 10, and 285 times higher than average on the Thursday before the attack.
-- CBS News, September 26
A jump in American Airlines put options 60 times (not 60 percent) above normal on the day before the attacks.
-- CBS News, September 26
No similar trading occurred on any other airlines
-- Bloomberg Business Report, the Institute for Counterterrorism (ICT), Herzliyya, Israel [citing data from the CBOE] (Chicago Board of Options Exchange)
Morgan Stanley saw, between September 7 and September 10, an increase of 27 times (not 27 percent) in the purchase of put options on its shares.
Merrill-Lynch saw a jump of more than 12 times the normal level of put options in the four trading days before the attacks."
[edit on 5-6-2008 by FewWorldOrder]
Originally posted by jthomas
There are no debunking "theories". There are only conspiracy theories.
Originally posted by jthomas
The fact remains, as has been true since 9/11, that Truthers have nothing to go on. Zero.
Truthers have made no progress in convincing anyone that there is anything valid about their claims and speculations. They have only convinced each other.
Originally posted by jthomas
Debunkers can go away and Truthers will be left just where they are now: with nothing to show. Nothing will happen.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
This statement is ridiculous.
Most people think that the government was negligent or worse, about 9-11.
They really think, in high numbers, that the government is covering up something.