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Originally posted by Bangin
Great read, ECK. Thanks for the link.
Hey, thanks. From the Wilderness is a site I swear by. One of the best out there.
Cheney is quoted in the link as mentioning Saddam's capability to threaten neighbors with WMD and take control of a large portion of the world's energy supply. It's obvious Saddam was a threat to US, but not in the sense that the Bush Administration led us to believe with WMD.
Saddam actually was that threat - in 1990. But we shalacked his A double S during Desert Storm. Then we especially had him by the 'nads during the containment/sanctions period. There was no need to take him out - other than to gain control of his resources and to switch the trade currency (from euro) back to the dollar. Now we got OPEC by the 'nads.
I'm curious to know what progress has been made in the Caspian Sea region, as far as new pipelines. After reading that article, I'm left with the assumption that no 'real' progress will be made, in any oil-rich region, without the unfortunate use of force.
From the Wilderness has covered just that quite extensively. If you look at their archives, you'll find a treasure trove of info. The consensus right now is it ain't nearly as feasable or valuable as was thought prior to the invasion of Afghanistan. Plus, with the continued fighting, companies aren't nearly as willing to go in and invest.
[Edited on 3/3/2004 by Bangin]
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
I concur mrmulder. Everything Mike Ruppert puts on his site his excellent.
What did you see Klare on? I've never heard him, myself - other than reading him.
Ok, here's some questions to ponder:
1. How feasable is it to drill in ANWR?
If ANWR means A New World Regime then it's very feasible. Look at 9/11
2. Are there any advocates here for the second option: Cheney's use of force doctrine.
Well he is second in command under Bush so it's possible. Speaking of Cheney have you notice that you hardly see his face on the news nor does he get mentioned?
3. Who here is willing to support the excruciating changes needed to implement a new conservation policy?
I am willing to support them. The only problem is not enough people in this country will support it.
4. Is this policy behind the attempted coup in Venezuela?
Not Sure
5. How long will it be before we find ourselves at war with China and Russia for the world's remaining resources?
Not long at all. In fact what is the deal with North Korea still? I'm tired of this game of checkers. If they claim they have WMD's why haven't we gone in to dismantle them?
6. Will we eventually topple the Saudi regime and take it over?
Absolutely
7. Will the policy remain the same if John Kerry is elected?
He seems to want to change things but I'm not sure.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Does anyone here think that Bush's treasonous immigration policy is linked to our need for Mexican oil? (Backroom deal)
That's an aspect I failed to see until reading Klare's paper. It sounds very plausible to me. What in the hell else could make Bush take such an insane and dangerous position?
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
MRMULDER, ANWR is the reserve up in Alaska Dems and Repubs have been fighting over drilling forever.
Originally posted by mrmulder
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
MRMULDER, ANWR is the reserve up in Alaska Dems and Repubs have been fighting over drilling forever.
Oh, that! Right! Well, then in my opinion if there is alot oil up there then I guess it would be feasible. It would be better to drill there than steal oil from Iran and Iraq so we don't have conflicts that result in war.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Yeah, Mexico is our third biggest supplier.
And this quick:
CARACAS, March 1 (Xinhuanet) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Venezuela would block the US access to its oil resources if the United States imposes sanctions on or invade the country.
news.xinhuanet.com...
BushCo was behind the attempted coup in Venezuela without a doubt.
Originally posted by COOL HAND
Man Bush needs to stop this now! I'm not going to war just because of oil. That is so stupid. Of course, low and behold, the Bush Administration isn't going to tell you that. They'll deny ignorance as usual.