The Truth,The Whole Truth?

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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 09:25 PM
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This is what every religion comes out to be,if you decode it....
anyone know anything about this,or is it just another conspiracy/coincidence?

But,what if you can re-discover every secret?



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anyone know anything about this?


If you look at any bible,and decode their metaphors into "numbers" itll then draw this map i drew,yes every religion!

what happens when every religion realizes this?

so many lies....

TELL JERUSALEM,I FOUND THEIR ARC OF COVENANT!

TELL MOSES,I SPLIT THE RED SEA!

PEOPLE WORSHIPPIN THE SUN AS GOD!(HAHAHA)

"LOST SOULS"







[edit on 4-6-2008 by meanmug]




posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 12:02 PM
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1.
My Video Exposing All

2.
My Drawing

3.
Forum Topic of Alien Map


[edit on 5-6-2008 by meanmug]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 12:52 AM
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What are the stipulations for the match up?



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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There is no Match-Up,watch here as i Expose your Occult/Science ok?


My Proof!

Your Occult Magick Witch/Clock

Now go get anyone with a Brain,not one of you Government Trolls,But a person with Great Knowledge/Wisdom and Understanding....

Exposed!

Learn The TRTH,Please!

Common Sense tells you the TRTH!
Have fun with your Magick and your Sun God/Science


[edit on 7-6-2008 by meanmug]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:16 AM
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-EXPOSED-


SAY IT WITH ME,OK?



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:31 AM
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I already told you. You know nothing about my beliefs.

You can't make something up then put it in your grid and call it proof. That doesn't even make sense.

I already found symbols that won't match your grid, or whatever you want to call it.

You are obviously a psychopath. You don't listen to reason. You have no idea what proof is. You don't know the definition of science. Everything you say has no basis and/or is completely fabricated. You refuse to explain your "proofs" and routinely resort to name calling to deflect attention away from your lack of answers. You are nothing but a complete fraud.

I am done with you.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:51 AM
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LIKE I SAID MANY TIMES,GO GET SOMEONE "INTELLIGENT"

You choose to be a sheep knowing [swelltasticly] well i just proved you wrong....


this isnt a Grid for the last time,its your God!

i didnt draw this up looking at a Grid,i drew this up from,"every religion"
Yes even yours as i just proved!

its obvious you know,nothing because you dont realise,This Grid=Universal Soul!

go on a freemason website and post it and ask them what it is?
or a zionist website
or a KBLH website
etc....

you cant face the TRTH,that you worship THE SUN!

EXPOSED!

if anyone thinks this is just a Grid,go decode every religion,EVERY
what do you think symbols do? (Hahaha)

you lost souls trying to play with Magick is the funniest thing i ever heard,people who know nothing about Magick is trying to DO IT?

HAHAHAHA

Like i said,your occult=EXPOSED!
Government Troll!

I know whats really goin on....

MOD EDIT: Do not circumvent the censors.

[edit on 6/10/08/10 by junglejake]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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Here is where i expose the 3 pillars....


3 Pillars


Exposed!



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 04:11 PM
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I ask for anyone to bring forth their bibles,their magick and i guarantte that i will EXPOSE it!


Bring forth....PLEASE

i ask for any of for all,bring forth....



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 07:43 PM
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I've watched your video, read this thread and some of your other posts; as other people have told you, it is hard to understand what you are referring to. At all.

Here's why: you seem to barge in on a thread, replying with a message usually sounding like 'i've got all the answers, you need to listen to me and just me, the map i drew is The Map and if you don't believe it, then you're so so stupid!'. Of course I exeggerated this bit, but it is rather close to reality. Most people can deal with this kind of antisocial behavior, and they'll try to find out what you are saying. And that's where the second chain of problems arises; instead of explaining your thoughts with arguments, thus describing how you got to draw the map as it is - you say 'you're supposed to find it out by yourself'. I do believe that autonomy is mandatory for a conscious life, but this does not mean that whatever you made by yourself, is understandable to others without communication.

Let me elaborate. as I said I've seen your video and several images of your map, and of course it looks interesting; but it does not look very accurate. Of course it's nice that you got to represent most of the logo's and icons in a grid, but you could pretty much create any grid to make those logos. If this grid were The Grid, why is it that the swastika (the logo you call 'nazi symbol') is all crooked? That's not how a swastika looks! And yet, it has been an important symbol of several immense asian religions.

To put it in other words, it's clear that you've spent a lot of time on this map and all the things that might relate to it; but it seems to me that by focusing too hard on what it might be (The Map with All Answers), you lost touch of what it is: a grid of dots, with some lines between them. I can't for the love of see how some of your symbols are what you call them; for example, the animals at 1:40'ish were unrecognizable, to me. I just saw a bunch of connected lines, The same confusion arises when you talk of numbers having special meaning (for example 4 being 11/11 being Magick mirrored into Magick). I understand that to you this is It, but can you understand that we can't see that (yet)?

If you're not prepared to explain yourself, you should prepare yourself to never be understood.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 07:52 PM
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I talk ignorant because it is U that is ignorant!

We have a choice!

I didnt force Science on U,They did!

Once again,i didnt know what a Grid was,until i interneted it,meaning i read every religion,bible and decoded,metaphors,do U know what a,Metaphor" is?

I dont want to sound like this,but like i said,it is you people who choose to be decieved by Science....

I ask you this ok,and be real....
If science is everything and everyone believes in what some religion says,then how could it ever be of your own?=IT CANT EVER BE OF YOUR OWN THEN! =YOU HAVE NO OWN SELF BELIEFS THEN!

wouldnt U be mad if U saw that?

I see different,i cant explain because how in the hell could i ever explain something that U are made NOT TO BELIEVE!

U are and will believe what OTHERS SAY!

i ask U to learn science!
science will expose EVERYONE BELIEFS BUT MINE OWN!

i show my beliefs with anyone,IT IS MY OWN FAITH! and not of science!
like i said,science is everything then how could you ever believe on your own?

(not speaking of you but lost people in general)

everyone says,stop forcing your religion on me!
science is all but faith....

SO I AM MAD YES!
everyone forces apon everyone to worship their SCIENCE!
THATS GENOCIDE!
could U understand that?

if i told you that 1 + 1 = 2,how would U know if U never added bbefore?

Here is what Ignorance really means:

Ignorance: Those who are unwilling to accept the TRTH!

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[edit on 7-6-2008 by meanmug]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 08:10 PM
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Apart from still being a bit stingy, this comes across a lot more clear. If I understand what you are saying, it is: there is no need for external systems to rely on, as all we need is our faith. I'm not sure what your personal faith is, but I too have a personal faith. It doesn't rely on science nor religions that I know of; however, I have taken parts and bits of them to let my own faith develop.

And in that sense, yes, it makes me mad too that everyone forces everything, everywhere; and to me this is the thing that faith should work against, it should unite, not divide.

Did I get that right?



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Yes,youre starting to understand!

But you have to understand that every religion is Science,so therefor,ITS ALL SCIENCE!

no matter what anyone ever tells you,about any religion,its wrong!
why do you think EVERY religion uses,"SYMBOLS"?

and about Jesus,Jesus was never a religion!
dont believe Jesus was a religion that they tell you about....

Jesus is Faith!
To Believe on your own,to not believe what someone forces apon you like Science does to all of us everyday!

and science being forced apon us through out our history is GENOCIDE!

you can get in serious trouble for GENOCIDE!
because you are forcing us to believe what you want us to and therefor you create you as my God!

Im not lying,if you read every bible,it all worships the sun,goo youtube"sun god"

Sun is science like i said,gold comes from the sun as only eternal element in which they turned into money and they force money on use by making items cost value,so like gas going up to 5 dollars a gas,we are force to worship money and keep making it because the value of money comes from who has the most gold!

this proves that they force science on us in everyway they can from the sun and they genocide against us,they make us kill eachothers over money which is gold,war which is religion etc....

I have no need to lie to people that i would help save in a heartbeat!



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Meanmug, I suggest you tell us, step-by-step, what this artful work means to you, how the symbology resonates or relates to the geometry that you've created. I don't know you, nor you me. Reading your posts in this thread, you sound derisive of people not understanding something that looks all the world to me as geometric art. I'm not putting down your work. If I had no interest in understanding it, I wouldn't even be posting.

There are some pretty bright folks that you've insulted here. Whyn't you just take a breath, tell us what you've done. I'm an afficiando of geometry, fractals, other constructs. Symbology is tangential to those, and of interest too. BTW, the tuneage on your vid is catchy.

Short answer: You want people to understand, you have to explain. If your goal is to feel superior, then have at it, you win. You da man.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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Hi meanmug,

So by your grid/god you have exposed all, by that i mean all religions ..the whole shebang?

You mention our magicks, magicks such as Solomon used to summon demons and angels at his call? If so then, yes Solomon did use symbols but with certain symbols for the certain demon/s he also used prayer or chants so these demons may do the job he summoned them for, not symbols alone. Where in your godly grid do we find what needs to be said with accompanied symbols or is there no need when using your godly grid?

Your grid (what i am going to call it) clearly makes up all or most symbols i know of, that i can see. But myself as a believer in The Supreme DO NOT BELIEVE in any symbol, be it a crucifix or whatever. I do not put my faith in any symbol but in The Supreme alone which is Spiritual. I am no Solomon (wisdom) so i put my trust and faith in The Supreme to handle my issues before i run to symbols and chants/spells etc to help me out if i am in a situation.

So you say we must bring our magicks and Scripture. We as believers cannot prove God to non believers by using the Word and we cannot prove Him to anyone as it is a personal relationship, aka faith. I found The Supreme when i stopped holding on to symbols which man made. Symbols and the chants does work, though i won't and have never used it, but wisdom such as Solomon is needed, then even Solomon abused it, telling us these things/magic/chants/hex/spells are to strong for flesh, there is a payback owed when using the favor of demons.

We are the temple of God, we are part of It, no symbols, no man made thing or the idea/s of man. Oh and i know you will come back and reply with something beyond me, that which makes no sense, as you say you see it, we can't or don't. Well lucky you or unlucky you.

All about symbols and where the true treasure is, read it.

Cor 1.
11: For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12: Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13: Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14: If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15: If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17: If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
18: Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19: For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Cheers.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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Ill explain it the best i can....

i come from a ghetto neighborhood were i watch my own people of all colors destroy themselves everyday over nothin,over being decieved through out life,over making us worship money or science.

i watch plenty of my friends die,i watch all of mostly my other brothers friends die,im a highschool drop out because,it was all gang violence and not ever trying to help teach,what im saying is i saw the devil face 2 face and it hurted.

i know nothing about geomatry,alchemy,mathematics science....
all i ever had in my life was faith,do you know what its like to fight everyday of your life since you were born?

i never in my life read any kind of bible until last year when i kept seeing people i know being hurt over and over from religion,i thought it was just me....


I ask myself,my inner self,my faith that if i could see the TRTH,i could help my people....

so i started studying every religion,science,math whatever because i kept seeing the same stuff over and over again,like a cycle....

i ask to see the TRTH because i survived EVIL....

i read and read,and kept looking at main words in every bible and it kept telling me to draw them,dont ask me why,but i started drawing them....

one religion after another,the main words were the same as the other religions....

example....

seraphim,what is seraphim,=seraphim had 2 wing covering face,two wing covering feet and two to fly,what is that = a 6 point star,then then that was the first i saw,so i drew a six point star,i used every symbol from every religion,every main words and they were like metaphors for numbers and as i kept studyiing every religion and symbols,i drew them all together and the map i drew is what came out.

i guess its when i lost fear of everything that was data in my mind from others being transported.

its people who faught with their minds through out life and the fear just like leaves your body and your mind opens up.

I just got sick of everything and ask myself to see the TRTH,i believe its because i dont have fear,sorry about the story but,i believe when you have no more fear and you searched and searched with pure love which is faith and if you can handle it as your self only knows it will then show.

to answer how i drew my image,metaphors from every religion,i dont know mathematics,i learn that through religion,like 3 kings,3 wisemen,trinity,i tjust kept coming over and over,like you can look at something over and over and never know because you dont know how to look at it.

i know my drawing is right and is all science and i sthe universal map/soul and is DEVIL.

because its all making us believe what everyone else wants us to and the only thing that will ever matter is your own beliefs.

and if science is everything then that is forcing me to believe in someone elses work.

the image i show isnt forcing you because how can i force science on you when its already been,i expose science to open my peoples faith.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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I just looked up Grid and all it is showing is some boxes lined up,is that why you call my image a Grid?

I dont see the dots in any Grid tho like mine,can you show me a Grid like mine please,i just want to see one,like i said,i dont know what a Grid is,so explain....



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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I will be honest. Your grid has kept me busy a few hours now, i will so go through to see if i can find things which are mentioned in Scriptures, not only the Bible only but others as well.

You could have a mind by far superior than the average, well def way above mine and some may say/think you are acting crazy or too out there and some will really look deep into this before replying even. Imho, i thought you were a bit out there but then your last reply brought out a side that made sense to me. You beat evil, you not fond of magic(k)/s because you are not scared of it. You have been through a lot, trauma, and such events can open certain doors.

I for one do find you an interesting character, outspoken in a different way but with a theory i have not come across.


**Your grid/god. I honestly see a grid, matrix like with symmetrical values which makes up all types of symbols. Example, ten people can look at a blurry photo and each will see an object or face, or something the others don't, until it's pointed out**





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posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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There ya go. Much better, and you're sharing your own beliefs, rather than working against those of others. Share with you something I learned long ago. If you express things that are your opinion AS your opinion (I think...... I believe....... It seems to me.... IMO, etc.) then there is no conflict.

Consider this too: If you substitute TRUTH with a perception of patterns, I don't see a problem. To me, there are personal truths, sort of like our personal rules that we live by, and my truth may differ from everyone elses. Then there is TRUTH, and this is an elusive lady to pin down. TRUTH might be something that is not relative, but true for all of us. Try a little experiment with yourself...... state a FACT. Okay, now pick a hole in it. Facts are easier to demonstrate when they are subjective ..... for example: "I own this computer I am typing on." Difficult to find a hole in that, however it's a fact that I cannot prove, at least not easily, so therefore it becomes MY truth. PROOF is another of these bandied about words. There are mathematical proofs, but that is a different animal. Most people, when they say proof, they really mean evidence. Evidence that is substantial enough for their own truths that they consider it proof. A person might say that true proof is a condition that is satisifed in a court of law with evidence. One might also say that that's nitpicking. (No, I'm not a lawyer)


After reading your response, and again viewing the video, I get a different sense of it. It's pretty good work, IMO. It is to me, a compilation of patterns that you've perceived. Perceived patterns are part of the human condition, and our brains seem to struggle toward establishing order in this manner. Doesn't make the experience invalid, but it doesn't necessarily constitute absolute proof either.

Nice talking to you. I'll check back again. Good luck



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 10:04 PM
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"You mention our magicks, magicks such as Solomon used to summon demons and angels at his call? If so then, yes Solomon did use symbols but with certain symbols for the certain demon/s he also used prayer or chants so these demons may do the job he summoned them for, not symbols alone. Where in your godly grid do we find what needs to be said with accompanied symbols or is there no need when using your godly grid?"

YES KING SOLOMON WHO SUMMONED DAEMONS!
SOLOMON THE GENOCIDE BASTARD DAEMON HIMSELF!

this Grid you call of that is mine,is not what i choose to be mine!

this is the finished of solomon,the finished or aliester crowley work....

I DONT WORSHIP SYMBOLS!
SYMBOLS KILLED MY PEOPLE AND KEEP KILLING MY PEOPLE EVERYDAY!

this Grid is SATAN!=SCIENCE!

once again,i do not worship this universal soul,i dont worship the symbols of it either,i promise it is what it is,YES KING SOLOMON

LOOK AT THE DOME ROCK IN JERUSALEM FOR HINT:AND LOOK AT MY DRAWING!

I EXPOSE ALL AND EVERY DAEMON!

I AM OF FAITH AND FAITH ALONE!NO SYMBOLS,NO LETTERS,NO NUMBERS,ETC

I HOPE BY SHOWING THIS TO PEOPLE THEY DONT WORSHIP IT,BUT YES IT IS A CHOICE AND IF THEY CHOOSE SATAN,SO BE IT BUT THOSE BLINDED WHICH IS MY PEOPLE WILL EXPOSE SATAN=SCIENCE!

AND IF U WORSHIP IT,THIS,SCIENCE,WELL GUESS WHAT,SCIENCE IS GOING BYE-BYE PRETTY SOON


NO GRID=UNIVERSAL SOUL THE TRUE TEACHING OF SATANS SOUL THAT WE ARE TRAPPED IN AND WE HAVE TO BREAK FREE!

DO U KNOW WHAT SOL-O-MON MEANS?

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