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reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 11:25 AM by stellawayten
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I felt sorry for him too. He looked so terrible. I couldn't believe his handlers let him go out like that. He didn't act very comfortable with the speech either. He looked vey unsure of himself.


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 11:27 AM by vor78
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I would imagine that the media will be all over it anytime McCain and Obama are in a situation where their ideas are going head-to-head. Both campaigns will probably be more than willing to accomodate any necessary rule changes, if any, I would imagine, in exchange for more TV air time.


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 11:31 AM by jimmyx
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wow!!!!!..... a thread that actually goes after a republican!!!! i can't believe it. and only after 20 gazillion negative posts about obama. i don't see how this slipped through!!! somebody screwed up, that's for sure


reply posted on 7-6-2008 @ 04:07 PM by TheRedneck
I still say this all an orchestrated, choreographed dance with one notable fly in the ointment. Hillary Clinton was chosen to be the next President, and for the sake of those who actually care about the election process, she was given an opponent of the McCain caliber to ensure a November victory. Witness the following facts:

McCain made a slow start. He was in some serious competition with Romney and even Huckleberry. Then Romney, his biggest competition, suddenly bows out, early in the race, with no real explanation and despite having a very good chance of defeating McCain. Huckleberry just had a serious case of foot-in-mouth disease.

Hillary's campaign benefited from the REPUBLICAN vote, from crossover voting in TX, OH, and PA specifically, encouraged by almost every leading Republican talk-radio pundit.

Ron Paul apparently has twenty yard signs for every vote he received, not to mention a dismal turn-out from the sheet-over-the-interstate factor. Riiiiight. I heard one report from, I believe, NH where the total votes for Paul were reported as zero for a county polling office, despite about twenty voters who came forward reporting they had voted for him. According to the MSM, he apparently changed his name to 'Other' sometime early in the race, since that was how he was referred to in the results.

Hillary Clinton seemed to do best in primaries, rather than caucuses. Maybe that's because in caucuses people stand up and declare their vote in person? She also claimed larger and easier victories in those states which have switched to electronic voting machines.

The slickest politician of our time, the great William Jefferson 'Bill' 'Slick Willy' Clinton, he of the golden tongue, the master communicator/manipulator, kept sticking his foot in Hillary's mouth. I'm sorry, I cannot believe he is this bad at campaigning on purpose.

So I see Obama as a 'spoiler' and a problem to the PWB, since McCain was apparently specifically chosen to be easy to beat. McCain won't win, unless the game can be somehow reversed to make him look good. So far, despite what I see as attempts to do so (anti-Obama propaganda), it doesn't seem to be happening. He's too old, too feeble, too weak on several key issues (immigration, the economy), and simply too liberal for his base.

November is still a long ways off though...

Originally posted by whaaa
Poor John, even if he wins the election; the campaign will have ragged him out so much, he will spend his 4 yrs as president taking naps.


A sleeping President? that actually sounds pretty good to me, means he can't screw up as much.

TheRedneck
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