Ahmadinejad, Mugabe blame West for food crisis

Ahmadinejad, Mugabe blame West for food crisis

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As a solution, the Iranian president suggested "the formation of an independent and powerful body, obeyed by all countries, to justly regulate the food market and organize all its related issues from production to consumption."

The Zimbabwean leader was more pointed in his attack, however, singling out Britain as the cause of the economic woes back in his homeland.

Zimbabwe has suffered a dramatic drop in food production and agricultural exports in recent years

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This is rich, yes that is sarcasm. The west is being blamed for the high cost of food, which is or will be causing shortages. I saw only once in the source article that mentioned oil being tied to the cost of food. No where did it state that if production and refining of oil were to increase that the cost of food would go back down. So how many countries will have to complain about its people who dieing because food shortages before increased energy production will be seen as an answer?

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reply to post by RedGolem


when it comes to food
we do waste more then we consume compared to the east and south east

Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by RedGolem

 

when it comes to food
we do waste more then we consume compared to the east and south east

This was my exact thought on the subject. If we could learn to buy and budget for exactly what we need, then no fault would lie w/ us as a nation. just my thoughts.

[edit on 3-6-2008 by justamomma]

The amount of waste is something that should be noted. I can only speak for my self on that topic. I waste very little when it comes to food.
That in its self does not change the fact that the high energy prices are driving up the cost of food because it takes energy to produce the food.
So lower the price of the energy and the food prices will go down.

Yes but it won't stop Africa and the Middle East being dessert areas, not our fault if it does not rain. Does this effect the rich countries or does this include everyone?

The desert countries have to use more energy to produce food. Be it in drilling for watter, irrigation, or hydroponics.
I am just pointing that out because it is tied into the price of oil and gas.

Oooo. Nice association CNN. Associating Mugabe and Ahmanejidad... they sure are on the same level... NOT.

Before it was a comparison to Hitler, now Mugabe. What else will it be?

The Zimbabwean leader was more pointed in his attack, however, singling out Britain as the cause of the economic woes back in his homeland.

The original excuse for the starvation, hyperinflation, high unemployment levels and general economic anarchy in Zimbabwe was because the "imperialist Western media was misrepresenting the black African utopia of Zimbabwe".
The new excuse for the starvation, hyperinflation, high unemployment levels and general economic anarchy in Zimbabwe is because of the "imperialist West imposing economic sanctions on the black African utopia of Zimbabwe".

Zimbabwe has suffered a dramatic drop in food production and agricultural exports in recent years

Would that have anything to do with the white Rhodesian farmers that knew what they were doing being driven from their farms by violent, drunken bands of "war veterans" (most of whom were too young to fight in the Rhodesian Bush War) as the Zimbabwean police turned a blind eye, while the aforementioned "veterans" and political cronies of Mugabe were handed the farms, and proceeded to run them into the ground?

Mugabe blaming the West on why Zimbabwe has gone from the "breadbasket of Africa" to a food aid reciever is as idiotic as ol' Dubya blaming China for the U.S. deficit.

Originally posted by justamomma
This was my exact thought on the subject. If we could learn to buy and budget for exactly what we need, then no fault would lie w/ us as a nation. just my thoughts.

[edit on 3-6-2008 by justamomma]

It would be cool if we could just buy and budget for exacts amounts we need for our household, so that we could waste nothing.

However I don't think it makes any difference to the third world at all because whatever doesnt sell quick enough in the store, does not get sent to the starving. It is simply disposed of in the dumpster. Our country's companies, like stores and restaurants are very much more guilty of food waste, than the average family.

Zimbabwe used to be known as the African Bread-belt, such were the farming methods employed before he went a bit crazy.

He needs friends, and he needs to look bigger than he is in the run up to the new election.

He's lucky he made it to Rome in the first place.

How about its everyone's damn fault?

Jesus Christ, people. Grow the hell up. If you can't see how every decision made by "elected" officials, both on the "good guys" and "bad guys," affects the cost, production, supply and demand of our most essential goods and resources, then please do yourself a favor and take an economics class.

Take your Go America foam fingers off for one second and actually think.

The leaders of this world have polarized the nations and the people in to a mindless pulp to the point that everyone has an enemy, we all need to trust our leaders, we all need to turn over all of our assets to our leaders, and we all need to unite with our neighbors, establish free trade and look for a better tomorrow, and the only way to do that is to create unions under a world government body!

We allow our leaders to take over our water, our food, our business, our liberties, our gold, our goods, both natural and manufactured, and our resources, both natural and manufactured. We allow our leaders to then tax and charge us for things that, as the people, we should rightfully own.

We allow our leaders to stage this global conflict; this country did this so that country is going to raise the price of oil. We allow them to establish a common enemy. We allow them to feed us bull# solutions. We allow them to establish these sovereignty violating treaties and agreements. We allow them to form us in to unions to all fall under a world government.

We allow them to do all of this, all to meet their own agendas. The politicians are the ones living their lives. They are using their country's assets to build a better tomorrow for themselves and their criminal friends. And who is caught in the middle? Who is expendable? You and I.

Its all in the name of establishing a higher order. All of the mind games, all of the propaganda - its all just to shut you up for at least one more minute; to keep you asleep for that much longer.

So when placing blame for the current state of the world and its many crises, including the food crisis, promptly remove your head from your ass and realize that its the "good guys" fault for starting the wars, its the "bad guys" fault for antagonizing it further, thus giving the "good guys" further justification, and most importantly its your fault for not doing something about it.

Don't forget this statement.

As a solution, the Iranian president suggested "the formation of an independent and powerful body, obeyed by all countries, to justly regulate the food market and organize all its related issues from production to consumption."

So if we were to take that idea we would all food rations issued by this independent body.

The world blames us for the food crisis.

And I agree.

First we fed them and gave them medicines until the world was overpopulated. A century of unrestrained charity.

Now we are trying to force GM crops on them to make them sterile, dependant, and profitable to corporations.

This story pretty much sums up mugabe - the man cares nothing for "his" people, he cares only about staying in power.

A lot of the zimbabwe food crisis can be traced back a few years to when mugabe was driving white farmers off their land in order to secure popular support.

It's backfired somewhat as many of those farms are now producing nothing but weeds, leaving an extremely fertile land standing idle for the most part.

so, the fact Mugabe removed land from White farmers - and murdered a few in the process - has nothing to do with it?

His policy on land and food destroyed Zimbabwe. His supporters were unable to operate the farms, like the whites could, and had no interest in it either. Before members start blaming the West and believing Mugabe, I went to school with a boy who was from Zimbabwe. His parents were white farmers and his house was burned by Mugabe supporters. They were forced off the land and fled to Britain.

The United Nations is a joke for breaking an EU travel ban on Mugabe. I would not be surprised if Kim Jong iL is allowed to address the UN next

West must stop using biofuels to save the world

Most of these 3rd world countries have no one to blame but themselves. A large part of the problem is that they breed like rabbits while knowing full well they don't have the resources to feed all the people. Instead of having one child, they have a tribe and wonder why they cannot be fed. Breeding like rabbits is fine if you have the resources, but they don't.

If they could control themselves when it comes to breeding then they could slowly develop and build more infrastructure to support a larger population. Basically, instead of blaming everyone else, they need to take responsibility for their own actions.

[edit on 4-6-2008 by WhatTheory]

A large part of why they "breed like rabbits" is because of the historically high infant mortality rate, the maternal mortality rate, and the low life expectancy, not to mention the high disease rate, and the problems of famine.

Here's a link to the WHO stats by country.

The so-called first world nations experienced a population explosion in victorian times that was largely built on wealth plundered from 3rd world countries, particularly Africa and the Indian sub-continent - in effect we robbed from them so that we could expand.

Originally posted by budski
A large part of why they "breed like rabbits" is because of the historically high infant mortality rate, the maternal mortality rate, and the low life expectancy, not to mention the high disease rate, and the problems of famine.

What you just posted is a symptom of the problem and not the cause of the problem. The problem is all the massive foreign aid because it acts like a welfare state and we all know welfare does not work.

Here is a article which sums up most of how I feel on this subject.

Source

The so-called first world nations experienced a population explosion in victorian times that was largely built on wealth plundered from 3rd world countries, particularly Africa and the Indian sub-continent - in effect we robbed from them so that we could expand.

This is laughable and ridiculous. Boy, you sure do have a twristed view of events.