reply to post by Blue_Sargasso
As many have said, there are different sects of Gnostic. It is always best to read the material yourself then take another persons point of view.
I dont translate as what is said about this 'ruler' who claims to be God as someone that will be killed as we think of killing. The killing is a
change in the vibrations of man....when this happens, you are overcoming the material and ego and accepting your true nature.
To all of those who say someone cant kill God. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT ANYONE IS TRYING TO KILL THE INFINITE CREATOR....they are talking about the ruler
of matter...the prince of this world who CLAIMS HIMSELF AS GOD. This is why one of his names is Saklas....which means 'fool' or blind god. We are
talking about aeons and archeons....attributes. A aeon brought forth this 'ruler' on her own without the spirits will....the God in the OT is not
the True Father of all things....he is ONLY the true father of this world.....the material.
This is why I speak so much to others about discerning natures. If you dont do this, and discern what is divine....you will not see or hear.
The war is over the light and the dark. The light always wins, not because it uses its power to rule....it doesnt need to do this, the power is
because it IS. The ruler does need things in order to remain in power here....he needs people to keep falling into these traps of thinking the
Infinite Creator needed blood sacrifices, Holy Holidays, worship, ect.....Thee only needs your love, once this happens, a natural order occurs, and
you live for this divine light, you are self no more. You dont need self salvation or redemption no more....your humble heart will lead you on a
The Infinite Creator allows it all to play out as it is to be. Through evolving religions, we see people have come along way of discovering a divine
nature. You are your own salvation...through your thoughts and actions and humbleness that you are not a self.... your will is not a will of the
material world if you are humbled in this divine way. Then also, you see, God, the true God of all things....is always humble and the love never ever
AGAIN....no one is saying the Monad, the Infinite Creator can be or should be killed. They are saying that the one that most people think is God and
think his nature is wrathful are wrong....and that this is not a divine nature and man is the one to do away with it. HOW???? By overcoming the ruler
of material things and this body of flesh. Its not a killing of blood ect.....its a mind over matter thing.
Just like with any material, there is distortion. One must study many if not all religions to grasp what is divine and what is ruling this body of
The Infinite Creator breathed the life into the creation...the divine spirit filled and fattened everything here that sustains life. It wasn't God
wanting us to stay in a garden....
Only part of the beliefs I have shared are from the gnostic texts, the rest is what I have learned on my own path of seeking.
There are only a couple of gnostic texts that display Jesus as something that doesnt fit a divine nature. Otherwise....they are chalk FULL of sayings
and teachings by Jesus. Something just rings true when I read some of these teachings...and many are found as the same teachings as in the NT. Just a
bit more deep as to what things mean in the gnostic text....
Im not sure where the whole 2012 idea came from, its not in the gnostic text, it has to be someones interpretation.