A Gnostic Plot to kill God in 2012? (Armageddon?), page 2
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 04:16 PM by Incarnated
reply to post by Blue_Sargasso



It is a Gnostic belief that a little "knowledge" can be a dangerious thing. I think this thread and post represent that perfectly. It takes loose legged understandings of the Gnostic belief system and spins a bunch of bunk about it as if that were the case.

Does anyone alive really know what Gnosticism is about? I have my doubts these days.


reply posted on 17-2-2009 @ 10:41 PM by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Blue_Sargasso



As many have said, there are different sects of Gnostic. It is always best to read the material yourself then take another persons point of view.

I dont translate as what is said about this 'ruler' who claims to be God as someone that will be killed as we think of killing. The killing is a change in the vibrations of man....when this happens, you are overcoming the material and ego and accepting your true nature.

To all of those who say someone cant kill God. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT ANYONE IS TRYING TO KILL THE INFINITE CREATOR....they are talking about the ruler of matter...the prince of this world who CLAIMS HIMSELF AS GOD. This is why one of his names is Saklas....which means 'fool' or blind god. We are talking about aeons and archeons....attributes. A aeon brought forth this 'ruler' on her own without the spirits will....the God in the OT is not the True Father of all things....he is ONLY the true father of this world.....the material.

This is why I speak so much to others about discerning natures. If you dont do this, and discern what is divine....you will not see or hear.

The war is over the light and the dark. The light always wins, not because it uses its power to rule....it doesnt need to do this, the power is because it IS. The ruler does need things in order to remain in power here....he needs people to keep falling into these traps of thinking the Infinite Creator needed blood sacrifices, Holy Holidays, worship, ect.....Thee only needs your love, once this happens, a natural order occurs, and you live for this divine light, you are self no more. You dont need self salvation or redemption no more....your humble heart will lead you on a divine path.

The Infinite Creator allows it all to play out as it is to be. Through evolving religions, we see people have come along way of discovering a divine nature. You are your own salvation...through your thoughts and actions and humbleness that you are not a self.... your will is not a will of the material world if you are humbled in this divine way. Then also, you see, God, the true God of all things....is always humble and the love never ever stops.

AGAIN....no one is saying the Monad, the Infinite Creator can be or should be killed. They are saying that the one that most people think is God and think his nature is wrathful are wrong....and that this is not a divine nature and man is the one to do away with it. HOW???? By overcoming the ruler of material things and this body of flesh. Its not a killing of blood ect.....its a mind over matter thing.

Just like with any material, there is distortion. One must study many if not all religions to grasp what is divine and what is ruling this body of flesh.

The Infinite Creator breathed the life into the creation...the divine spirit filled and fattened everything here that sustains life. It wasn't God wanting us to stay in a garden....

Only part of the beliefs I have shared are from the gnostic texts, the rest is what I have learned on my own path of seeking.

There are only a couple of gnostic texts that display Jesus as something that doesnt fit a divine nature. Otherwise....they are chalk FULL of sayings and teachings by Jesus. Something just rings true when I read some of these teachings...and many are found as the same teachings as in the NT. Just a bit more deep as to what things mean in the gnostic text....

Im not sure where the whole 2012 idea came from, its not in the gnostic text, it has to be someones interpretation.



Peace


reply posted on 17-2-2009 @ 10:55 PM by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Tallsorts



AGAIN>>>>we are not talking about killing the Supreme One of all things....we are discerning that the OT God who claims himself as God is the ruler of matter....darkness...flesh. This is why he has attributes such as jealousy, pride, ego, wrath and intervenes when man becomes full of wisdom. The true one has no need to intervene....for this is a part of the divine plan...the spirit within must overcome the matter, material, riches of this world. This is the war, not a war of guns and killings of blood...its a war of spirit and matter....we are made of both....they conflict each other. They are the prime yin and yang that we observe in every single thing here. The Christ is within, the Christ within you is awaiting to rejoin with the Holy Spirit. This can only happen through us. Our jobs are more important then waiting on God to fix things. It is us that must overcome the flesh, matter, riches, pride, ego....all of those attributes ONLY exists in this world or matter...they do not exists in the Infinite Creator, the Eternal Light. When you dont hide the light....then its not hard to overcome this. Also, it is then not hard to see that the Infinite Creator becomes darkened by the ruler of flesh, through man falling to love the flesh more then the divine light within.

Again, mind over matter.


reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 10:22 AM by spacial
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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post by Tallsorts



..we are discerning that the OT God who claims himself as God is the ruler of matter....darkness...flesh. This is why he has attributes such as jealousy, pride, ego, wrath and intervenes when man becomes full of wisdom.


so they are going to kill George Bush?


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 04:59 PM by Xcouncil=wisdom
Yeah, gnostic teachings are kinda funny, the old texts claim to be written by men in Jesus company (like the book of Thomas) but when examined they fail to resonate the truths in the bible, of which they (the early Gnostics) claim to expound upon. So, yes, they do want to destroy God, and glorify themselves with their own special "insights", thus distracting from the truth's that are already distorted enough in the bible by preverted translations with intent to convey specific non canon teachings. Like the trinity. Back to point, Gnostics do want to destroy God, and the start of that is the perversion of the identity of God. To claim Satan is just a missunderstood feller is a bold face lie. But the trick is, to tell you things about the bible, that aren't in the bible, and blind you with outrageous ideas, like, you don't need God, just listen to me and I can give you insight better than God.
So yes, Gnostics, want to destroy the God of the Bible (which, is the same God, OT and NT) and gain glory for themselves. Obviously, not born of love. That's why Paul had to warn Timothy to turn away “from the contradictions of the falsely called ‘knowledge.’” (1 Timothy 6:20, 21)
I am not afraid to quote Paul either, as I have noticed a strong belief being purportrated to discredit him as a true disciple, implications that he was attempting to glorify himself...he was imperfect, but his ultimate goal was to keep the congregations free of exactly the things discussed here. And his teachings fall in line with the theme of the bible, and don't add to them. But that's somebody elses battle!

Yes, Gnostics want to destroy God , but it is just a want, the best they are able to do is destract, decieve, and claim higher insight than anyone else...
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