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Exclusive: First Iran-made Multiple Launch Rocket fired from Gaza

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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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Exclusive: First Iran-made Multiple Launch Rocket fired from Gaza


www.debka.com

The new weapon, of the type used by the Lebanese Hizballah against northern Israel, was fired for the first time by Palestinians from Gaza Tuesday, June 3. It landed on open ground in Shaar Henegev.

The newly smuggled weapon carries a 8 kg payload – bigger than the Qassam missile with about the same 9 km range - drastically escalates the Hamas-led war against the southwestern Israeli population. For the first time, the Palestinian terrorists have acquired a weapon launched from a vehicle.

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that weapons consignments, including increasingly advanced systems, continue to be smuggled into the Gaza Strip from Iran and Sudan for Hamas and its terrorist allies.

The consignments are dropped from freighters into smugglers’ boats in the Suez Canal and unloaded on the Sinai coast. The Egyptian police are performing better now in intercepting illicit weapons deliveries, but their work is seriously impeded by the fact that some of the officers are bribed by the smugglers for their collaboration.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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So iran supplies gaza as well as seria..

www.debka.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:21 PM
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So the escalation begins.Regardless of where people stand about the war on terror,If the current regime in Iran which is a CORRUPT THEOCRACY,aquires nukes what do you think will happen?This is a legitimate question and the answers will be interesting.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Justice11
So the escalation begins.Regardless of where people stand about the war on terror,If the current regime in Iran which is a CORRUPT THEOCRACY,aquires nukes what do you think will happen?This is a legitimate question and the answers will be interesting.


Well, maybe, like Israel, they will push an enitre population into the sea. Or maybe they will do nothing.

I see no problem with Iran arming these people. If Israel is going to shoot at Palestinians with tanks and attack helicopters, I would think that rocket fire would work better than the rocks they were using before. If it is ok for the US to arm one side of this conflict, why is it not ok for the other side to be armed as well? Or is this another blind double standard?

On a side note: if Iran is a corrupt theocracy, what is the US, with Bush saying he talks to God?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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It amounts to this:
"Don't give them pesky arabs weapons because then they'll be able to fight back and then what will we do?
"


If iran had nuclear weapons, maybe bush would have though twice before entering into wars of economic conquest in the region.

Why hasn't he tried to take the resources of china and russia?

Yep, you guessed it - they got nukes too - which is why there's no great outcry against pakistan, despite the fact the country is a hotbed of "terrorism"



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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There was no logic in that post at all. If Iran ever gets a nuke, there is nothing saying they will use it. Just as the US hasn't used its nukes in Iraq (even though it fought two wars against Saddam Hussein). By your logic the US should be slinging nukes at every country in the world, including Iran. But they're not. Which should indicate to you that your logic might not be as water-tight as you assume.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:43 PM
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If they can 100% prove this is an Iranian weapon system delivered from iran with their explicite instructions to provoke Israel then iran gets whats coming to it.

Israel has the right to self defence, and I fear this will soon escalate.


I wonder, should israel buy thousands of MRLS units and pound them out day after day at random targets ?

That would be a sight to see.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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Of course this assumes Iran is doing this "semi-officially", that is, that the weapons are coming from Iranian government sources. Assuming the weapons even ARE Iranian, how do we know they aren't being provided by a rogue group within Iran?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by budski
reply to post by Rook1545
 


It amounts to this:
"Don't give them pesky arabs weapons because then they'll be able to fight back and then what will we do?
"


If iran had nuclear weapons, maybe bush would have though twice before entering into wars of economic conquest in the region.

Why hasn't he tried to take the resources of china and russia?

Yep, you guessed it - they got nukes too - which is why there's no great outcry against pakistan, despite the fact the country is a hotbed of "terrorism"




Hey there will be none of that socialist left wing nazi common sense tomfoolery here. This is grounds for war god damnit. OPEN YOUR EYES, people are defending themselves here...there is no place in this world for arabs to standing up to the mighty israel, they are supposed to take the beat down and like it.

You make a very valid point though. It is just real life, when you think someone has a gun you are bit nicer to them, because you like your brains in your head, not on the sidewalk.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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DON'T START USING LOGIC HERE! This is the "condemn Iran for daring to exist" thread.

Unfortunately, that difference is lost on many people. They equate "Iranian arms" with "The Iranian government pulled the trigger". Of course, if this logic were used in Iraq, the US armed forces would have to invade Washington to stop the US supplying insurgents with guns to attack itself.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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If I remember correctly, we are firing on Pakistani soil with Predator drones and hellfire missiles. Why is that allowed?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:51 PM
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A rogue group? The Iranian govt. has been known to support Hezbollah by providing training and providing the weapons they need. There is no rogue group, its definitely supported by the Iranian govt. based on their policy towards Israel. And they ain't shy of bragging about it.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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It's not - pakistan have made it clear on numerous occasions that US interference and attacks are unwarranted.

Unfortunately, the US just says "oops, sorry"



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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Do you have any evidence for them providing these weapons directly? No? Then you can't jump to conclusions, regardless of how tingly it makes you feel



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:01 PM
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one would think if the palestinian resistance got decent rockets from Iran they would be hitting their targets and not some poor sods field?

where these DIY iranian missiles buy them in packs which you build at home,

also
Dan Tanna
Israel has a right to defend its self such as the Palestinians it opreses and the Iranians it threatens with its poodle accross the atlantic



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
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A rogue group? The Iranian govt. has been known to support Hezbollah by providing training and providing the weapons they need.


Please provide reliable, independently verified proof of this statement that did not come from either the US or Israeli intelligence services.


There is no rogue group, its definitely supported by the Iranian govt. based on their policy towards Israel.


Well, considering how many South and Central American nations we've sent Special Forces to in order to train terrorists and insurgents to overthrow democratically-elected governments, maybe you've got a point. We can't really expect we're the only players to use proxies to fight our battles.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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In local news the origin of rockets was a "out of one of Arabic countries". I would never guessed it! However Iran is not Arabic country, so it can be another example of "professional" journalism - either by Debka or by other source.
This source tells that difference is better accuracy (still not guided, of course), more "shelf" life, more shrapnel but same range.
As for accuracy - they shoot at city, not a specific target. Sometimes it misses (poor aim, bad manufacturing). So at least manufacturing factor is going to be improved.
By the way, those who think that it will "even" the odds - if it will be used massively the option of large Israeli operation will have more chances, and so number of dead (on both sides) will rise dramatically. Other then that it will achieve nothing. This is what Hamas wants?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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Dirk it aint just Syria they supply and it aint just Gaza try Hisbollah in Lebanon too. Let's remember Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil. The sooner they are eliminated as a twenty first century threat the better, for Israel, US forces and British forces in the ME. I say take this thorn in the side of the powers that be ASAP.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:20 PM
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Whatever gets you through the night, man.

I hope those in charge know more about the countried involved than ufoorbhunter.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by dirkboy
 


Dirk it aint just Syria they supply and it aint just Gaza try Hisbollah in Lebanon too. Let's remember Iran is the main pillar within The Axis of Evil. The sooner they are eliminated as a twenty first century threat the better, for Israel, US forces and British forces in the ME. I say take this thorn in the side of the powers that be ASAP.


Thank god you have no real say in the matter. The Iranians live in the ME, the US and Britain have no right to be there. They need to be shown that the world is not thier playground, and not everyone is going to play by their rules if they don't want to.

I really wish someone would answer this specific question for me. Why is it ok for one side of a conflict to get support and weapons, but not the other side?



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