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reply to post by nyk537


you are not allowed to use them in germany either but no tests!
it is forbidden

@schro

just listen to your podcast
good stuff
and you are great on the mic
love it

Challenge Match: jasonjnelson vs TheMythLives: "So Duh; The Best Is Obvious"

New Challenge Match...

Sorry for the bad pun but Sky has reminded me that I don't care about those sorts of things...

reply to post by orange-light


I have to do those drug tests, too.

Of course, I work with nasty chemicals all day and if I was "medicated" I might blow something up. Go figure......



....notices the "intellect" of the debates around here seems to be slipping....

[edit on 4/2/2009 by skeptic1]

Originally posted by orange-light
why did your son need shots to be registered for school

Vaccines. Certain types of vaccinations are required to start school.

oh dear me
everything ok now?

He's showing signs of improvement. Last night and this morning he couldn't stand at all or walk. He still won't stand but he was 'walking' on his knees before I put him down for his nap a little while ago but he won't walk upright. I vaguely remember going through the same thing after getting shots in my back as a child. I didn't want to sit up for a while because I'd have to bend my back and it would hurt.

It's nothing serious, I promise. It's just hectic because he's a bundle of energy and wants to run around everywhere. lol

I'll keep you guys updated but I promise he's OK. Just sore. lol

reply to post by skeptic1


repeatedly?



i dunno what you are handling with
but i am sure you are highly capable

reply to post by orange-light


I get tested several times a year.

And, I handle nasty stuff daily. I mean, I deal with the stuff that will peel flesh off of bone. So, I can understand why drug tests are needed.......otherwise, we risk blowing the installation into the air and leaving a big, useless crater in the ground.

reply to post by AshleyD


again i am confused and puzzled


vaccination is up to the parents here - the docs recommend but nobody can force parents to do this - no school can demand it!


glad that he is improving! i know how helpless a mom feels when kids are in trouble

hugs to you ashley
yup keep us updated

reply to post by orange-light


You are just jealous of our freedoms.

reply to post by Ian McLean




Specifically the freedoms that are mandatory to participate in.

reply to post by orange-light


It might be different in Germany than the U.S.

For us, we got him the six required (Polio, Measles/Rubella, Tetanus, etc.) and declined the other two they wanted to give him (chicken pox and something sounding like 'pneumonia conjugate' or however you spell it).

I'm not sure but I think daycare requires them too but since he's never even seen the inside of a daycare and has always stayed home with me, he never had to go through any of those and only received the typical vaccines babies and toddler receive.

They actually wanted to give him two more yesterday, one more in May, and two more in October but we declined all of the unnecessary ones until we can do more research on them.

But yes, certain vaccines are required here. They cannot FORCE to to take them like if I wanted to home school him or something but if he is going to school (which he is), they are required. I'm sure there is still some way parents can exempt their kids but the ones he received yesterday were the same ones I received as a child and are pretty standard.

reply to post by Ian McLean


the "freedom" to get tested when anybody wants it or to be ordered to get shots ?

yeah i am so jealous about it ian - glad that you detect it and i can talk about it for the first time in my life
see i am so yellow - yellow means jealousness

maybe this freedom should be debated

reply to post by AshleyD


see we can.t home school
school is mandatory or compulsive
therefore they can.t demand shots - since parents have the freedom to choose
and if you dont want your kid get it - like mine didn.t get any - but he has to go to school
any force would be kind of assault


i like that freedom over here

Originally posted by orange-light
see we can.t home school
school is mandatory or compulsive

Wow that's scary to me, too. Almost like they'd be forcing you into state indoctrination.

I feel a debate topic brewing.

reply to post by AshleyD


i can recommend my thread "fear" in my sig

my son is afraid for several reasons about school
i would rahter take him out and educatehim by myself but i am not allowed


a good friend of mine who is married to an american but the family lifed in germany took her 3 kids out of school and homeschooled - secretly
they found out after 3 years
the kids got american citizenship - as the mother does as well

they wanted to take the kids away from the parents because of the illigal homeschooling
the family fleed to minnesota last september

the story was also published by an homeschooling organization and even a foundation conected with the white house helped my friend


would be a wonderful debate!
i don.t support the school system we got in germany
i am really off with it

edit:
and it is state indoctrination


[edit on Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:18:48 -0500 by orange-light]

Carrot, has semperfortis responded and confirmed that he will get some neutral Judges?

reply to post by Skyfloating


Neutral male and female judges....equal number of each. We can't have one outnumbering the other.

My latest reply is up, Sky.

I didn't wait....I just worked around the real world.

reply to post by Skyfloating


There's no such thing my friend.

Debates at ATS are fixed....it's a conspiracy of epic proportions.

I can tell you who to pay off though to ensure victory....if you're interested in that sort of thing.

reply to post by nyk537


That's not nice.

If you are going to make offers like that, make them to both of us.

Originally posted by skeptic1
My latest reply is up, Sky.

I didn't wait....I just worked around the real world.

Thats fine. There's no rush.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Carrot, has semperfortis responded and confirmed that he will get some neutral Judges?

Yes he has ...

... this is going to be sweet.