Fight Club Pub.

reply to post by skeptic1


I sincerely have no clue of that which you are referring to...

[edit on 22-2-2009 by MemoryShock]

Mudslides got me pregnant.

reply to post by antar


That must have been one helluva mudslide.

And, Shock, don't act innocent......it doesn't play.



[edit on 2/22/2009 by skeptic1]

reply to post by skeptic1


Thanks, Skeppy! That looks to be just what I wanted.



Antar .....

so, was the baby chocolate, or an alcoholic?

reply to post by Heike


Creamy white and pure as the driven snow... Now his Dad thats another story...

Just a note...the winner of Best Animated Film, in his acceptance speech, said the word "tenaciously"...which is interesting because Jack Black of Tenacious D fame was one of the presenters...

I think that is very interesting...

Hey everyone, another quick post sadly. Anyways, going to be uploading some media on the site, go check it out if you like and friend request. Peace!!

media.abovetopsecret.com...

Arghh … I finally got my post up. Just one more round to go

I wanted to apologize for not making it to the debate that I was scheduled for. I had a HDD crash on Wednesday night and it took 2 days for a new one from DELL to be shipped.

I am bummed that I missed out but I wanted to say good luck to everyone and again I am sorry I held up the debate. I would have much rather done that then look for all of these damn install keys that I lost...thanks and happy debating....

I was really looking forward to my first post....

reply to post by esdad71


Aw, rats, esdad. That sux. Well, maybe someone'll drop out in Round 2 and you can blather away with the rest of us.

morning pub


i got my closing up

www.abovetopsecret.com...

all is done

i am happy

[edit on Mon February 23 2009 by orange-light]

Morning all.

Just been browsing the debate forums (nothing much interesting in the general boards).

I feel really sorry for Max. He was putting in the effort and his opponent just threw in the towel.

It was an interesting topic as well : www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by enjoies05
Over 10,000 posts in this thread.

DATS got over 15,000


both pub and bar do tremendous amounts in posting




congrats to heike for 10,000 reply and shock fo the 10,000 posts

you gain a smile from everyone

reply to post by antar




antar honey don.t you think we should talk about that concept in private?
erhm it is indeed a bit a slightly bit different
you might be surprised

but i don.t want to talk about it on board where sdog and all the other guys are sneaking around

reply to post by 44soulslayer


On that front I have sent a U2U to Maxmars offering to take Doomsday place in the debate providing that Maxmars and the power that be agree to this . Maxmars would go thou to round two as I do not wish to commit to the Tournament.

Cheers xpert11 .

xpert11!! Are you in this debate? Checking....


....nope.

Y' coward.

Good to see you again, anyway.

So anyway, I have a question for all.

How do you feel about citations in opening arguments?

The reason I ask is that I'm toying with the notion that any and all external links should be restricted to the main body (three posts each) of the debate and be excluded from opening and closing arguments.

Otherwise, what's the difference (in the case if the rebutter) between a first response and an opening argument?

I move that all external sources be unavailable during the opening and closing remarks.

All those in favor say "Aye".


[edit on 23-2-2009 by Tuning Spork]

reply to post by Tuning Spork


it depends on the subject to me

sometimes i quote in my opening statement from external source and sometimes i don.t do it.

i know it is about or almost about rethoric but i wouln,t decrease the possible references.

you have to prove some statements, and 5 is ok, sometimes it is a bit too less, but all in all it is ok, more references would lead to over proving.

Originally posted by orange-light
i know it is about or almost about rethoric but i wouln,t decrease the possible references.

Point well taken.

But I wonder if the unavailability of external sources, in the opening and closing statements, might get us back to a more structured presentation.

At least save the referenced for the main body of the debate?

After all, what is the restriction on an opening or closing argument if citations are freely available for the linking? In order to distinguish between the opening and closing aguments and the main body of the debate, I think that citations should be restricted.

Not that there can be none, but... some restriction....? Ideas, anybody? Beuller?

reply to post by Tuning Spork


My style always omits references and details from the opening and closing statements.

I consider the opening and closing to be the most vital, as the first sets the frame and tone of your argument and the latter is what "leaves the taste in the mouth" of the reader/ judge.

I think thats why I personally prefer to keep the opening and closing statements uncluttered. Rhetoric, rather than logic, is the best for the O & C statements.

But then again, debate is all about personal style. Some manage to get in extra content in their O&C statements which I can't.

I think what I mean to say is that the talent of the debater should begin and end the debater's presentation.

The sources are what they are: secondary to the argument.


Edit to add: SoulSlayer, you have chrystalized my thoughts exactly.



[edit on 23-2-2009 by Tuning Spork]