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posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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reply to post by ybab hsur
 




If you are not going to vote "liberal" then who the hell are you voting for? Obviously, McCain is the only other alternative besides not voting.

A vote for McCain is a vote for more war, debt and a military draft. Ybab, I hope we never cross paths in the Iran war if McCain wins.


[edit on 6-6-2008 by nikolat23]




posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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So you are insinuating that to support the troops, one MUST yearn for them to come home at any cost?

I dont want a single American troop to die, so don't get me wrong. One of my very best friends is there right now. And i do miss him greatly.

BUT

I've asked him, and many others before, and they've always agreed with me

This is the job they signed up for.
This is what they get paid to do, and that pay comes from our hard earned money. So to say "you dont support the troops if you support the cause" is ignorance.

If you can't see it that way, well, im sorry for you, i truely am.



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by ybab hsur
reply to post by TheOracle
 


So you are insinuating that to support the troops, one MUST yearn for them to come home at any cost?

I dont want a single American troop to die, so don't get me wrong. One of my very best friends is there right now. And i do miss him greatly.

BUT

I've asked him, and many others before, and they've always agreed with me

This is the job they signed up for.
This is what they get paid to do, and that pay comes from our hard earned money. So to say "you dont support the troops if you support the cause" is ignorance.

If you can't see it that way, well, im sorry for you, i truely am.


The Iraq war was based on lies. We should never have gone in.

Why do you believe Americans are obligated to pay for the Iraq occupation? I can understand if our oil interests need protection but war was not justified. Can you explain your reasoning?

[edit on 6-6-2008 by nikolat23]



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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reply to post by jtma508
 


this is the highest rated response of its kind, and also the first of its kind in this thread.

"its stupid to divide"

Why?

Liberals say "THIS" is good for the country

Rebpulics say "THIS" is good for the country

I agree with REPUBLICANS
and disagree with LIBERALS
over all

There are stil some things i hate about republicans, but OVER ALL, i agree with them

so how is it sophmorish? I think its "sophmorish" to have no opinion what so ever. To have no opinion is to leave the deciding factors of you rlife in this country solely in the hands of another human being.

Thats ignorance.

There is no other way to describe it. to be honest, i never knew that there were this many liberals in the world until now. I may have to recruit someone to do my posts for me while im asleep, so that my education can continue on in my slumber.

Nothing in this world should be free. But democrats and liberals seem to want it to be that way. (disclaimer: Free is not intended towards monetary exchanges. Its intended to describe the hard work that one person must put into something to get something in return)



on another note ... many people have made the claim that well ybab, this is a political conspiracy forum

NO it's not. This is "above politics" If you look athte board listings, ALL boards have "conspiracy" in them, except this one.

if you wanna talk about 9/11 conspiracies, there's already a forum there for it. Wanna talk about religious conspiracies, alreayd a forum for it.

There's even a "general" conspiracy forum for ... you guessed it, misc conspiracies.

"ABOVE POLITICS" isnt a cess pool for conspiracies. If you want to talk about your own conspiracies, then go somewhere else.


Yours respecfully
-Ybab

[edit on 6-6-2008 by ybab hsur]



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by AnOldFriend

Originally posted by ybab hsur
reply to post by blahblah123
 




You all keep calling me conservative. I've answered all of your rebuttals, and i've dealt with all of the flamming, slandering, and name calling.

People will say "im not liberal!"
you reply "dont vote for liberals!"

I'm a liberal, thank god!!! Why would someone deny that? Conservatives are the ones who should be ashamed this isn't 1950 its time to update thoughts and perspectives.

and the same people lash out at one's opinion of liberals. If you're not liberal, why does it bother you so badly?
Oh, and stop calling me conservative. Just because i fit the bill of being someone that proves you wrong on a daily basis and fills you with self-loathing and rage, doesnt mean i am an actual conservative.


Nobody said you are a Conservative, because nobody cares. They are replying to the fact that obviously you aren't liberal so you must be the opposite. It's common sense following your post format. Conservatives make up crap to make themselves feel better in their narrow minded view of the world.

You keep calling me/us (or at least are insinuating that I am) a liberal. I've dealt with all of your questions and rebuttals.

Oh and stop calling me a liberal. Just because I fit the bill of being someone that proves you wrong on a daily basis and fills you with self-loathing and rage, doesn't mean I am an actual liberal.



All you have said so far is:
1. Quit calling names.
2. I've answered your questions.
3. I'm not a Conservative.

How about saying something else...or better yet how about actually answering questions...can't fight with the constitution? Conservatives seem to make up # all the time...get going.



posted on Jun, 6 2008 @ 08:10 PM
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Because everyone resorts to name callign and slander...thast why iv'e said it so many times, liberals can't argue with facts.

I've said my peace on the issue in my FIRST POST

if you want to know how i feel about flamming ignorance, and the people who reply with it, then go re-read my FIRST POST

all of your questions shall be answered there.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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Anyone who still drags out the tired, old "liberal" label is simply a pawn of their media choices. The author of this thread and their defenders make the case against their own "argument."



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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This thread ought to be moved to AbovePolitics.com ~ Not worth the time of day on ATS.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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and anyone with enough ignorance not to read up on the author of this threads actual opinions is too ignorant to make a decision and even post here.

If you dont know what you're talking about, then maybe you should go post at another website.

I hear barneyandfriends.com is currently accepting new members

i've made it very and abundantly clear that im not conservative

i support no conservative just like i support no liberal

i even made an anti-conservative post, but people like you with your narrow-minded liberal ways, have no interest in what other people have to say.

Since i dont agree with you, im against you right? I must be a conservative if im against a liberal? Well if thats the way you think - then you sir, are the prime directive for this posting.

You embody the ignorance of the liberal party to a T and may god have mercy on your soul



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by ybab hsur
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
 

I agree with REPUBLICANS
and disagree with LIBERALS
over all



i support no conservative just like i support no liberal

l


I bet,

And why are you obsessing over this "slandering and name calling" thing? In the last few pages that I have been apart of you haven't been slandered or the like once that I recall. I am starting to think you are using that as an excuse to not answer questions.

[edit on 7-6-2008 by AnOldFriend]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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Teddy Roosevelt was a liberal.

Sorry, but both major parties have a long history of having both liberals and conservatives, as well as middle of the roaders within their ranks.

It is only in very recent history that ultra-conservatives have tried to drive everyone else out of the Republican party. It is a direct result of including the racists from the south, and the rest of the idiots that can't understand that anyone else can possibly think differently than they do.

Most of them would be anathema to the father of Modern Conservatism, Barry Goldwater. He said, before he died, that any party that spend so much time worry about who is sleeping with whom, is in real trouble. I proudly cast my first presidential ballot for him.

No, most of what call themselves "conservatives" today are not at all conservative. They are so ultra far right that even Libertarians can't stand them. They have a great deal in common with the American Nazi's, and other fascist types.

They have never, never had a successful Presidential candidate, and they never will. Thank God for that!



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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To call a democrat of 100 yeras ago the same as a democrat today

or to call a republican of 100 years ago the same as a republican today

is absolutely silly.

You use this argument that says "Liberals say that TDR was like a liberal, so that means liberalism was great!"


I believe that Teddy Roosevelt was a great American President, just like all history books. But to compare him with the likes of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is just crap.

So does Abraham lincoln Being a republican make all republican ideologies of today "divine law"? No. It doesnt.

What today's libearls have turned into is a bunch of flip flopping yellow bellied cowards who can't say what tehy really believe in, because they'd loose the minority vote.

Today's conservatives are a bunch of money hungry vultures who can't say what they reall want - because they'd loose the "average" republican vote.

If you want to compare ANY president to those of today's time, compare the only one who didnt belong to a party of any sort.
George Washington.

And he reason? Because he said it's bad for america and would split American interests. Looks like he was right.

There is no political answer today. Repub or Dem, Green, Independant, whatever. And why? Because they're all for themselves. They're all for being able to say "yaaaaa mommy im president" and then....."..umm now what?"

and thats what i've been doing all along, picking apart BOTH parties.
To compare TDR to modern liberals is vile and disgusting.
Want proof?

By YOUR standards
Abraham Lincon was a republican and so is George W. Bush. Guess Bush was right, and liberals were wrong.

[edit on 7-6-2008 by ybab hsur]



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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I am far from a liberal or a conservative.

Lets call liberals what they really are: Leftist morons

They advocate socialism at the very least, and outright communism at the worst.

They, like numerous conservatives certainly dont pay any attention to the Constitution, as leftists are irresponsible, brain dead retards who thinnk big government is a good thing.



posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 09:08 PM
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AMEN BROTHER

its always refreshing to hear from non-liberals

you have to hear from people who won't consider themselves anything in order to truely hear any good sense.

This entire post started out as a "here's what i dont like about liberals" and of course a WHOLE BUNCH of liberals came to defend their ignorant ways

but i guess thats how mass groups of people act.
To quote one of my favorite movies ever (and lets see if you can guess it)

A person is smart
People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals and you know it


thats right. Thats right.
Leftist whackjobs and 'neocons' alike

all full of crap and lies. If you say otherwise, then this post is for you.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 07:25 AM
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To the OP....you are truly one of the worst kinds of people....spouting crap from the GODHATESFAGS group.
You are truly sick and twisted.
You say it's political or a campaign......you are just warped and nasty and there is no need to lambast liberals or any free thinking people.

You are one sick person!!



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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I see yet another liberal who never, once, took the time or effort to read what i've posted.
Im beggining to think even less of certain liberals than i ever have before
and that is really saying something.



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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Totally right, these conservatives today are fakes. Most of these republicans only vote for the sake of protecting their ignorant lives, it has nothing to do with small government and taxes. This support for Bush and McCain are pure examples.

If more conservatives were voting Ron Paul or maybe Barr I'd have better hope for true conservative values returing to the Republican party.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by southern_Guardian]



posted on Jun, 9 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. We need to go back to what Washington wanted - no political parties. A government for the people by the people. At this time NO ONE cares about the everyday Joe, not the demipubs or the republicrats... It's all about them making a buck.





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