i only whip out the ignore button when someone claims something so extreme that it only spits bush-hating.
saying 9/11 was an inside job is the greatest lie of our century, and if you were in any other country, you'd be shot for such treason.
Perhaps you are right. We should not listen to:
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An opinion is a person's ideas and thoughts towards something.
I seem to understand something that you fail to recognize:
That the difference of opinion can never be "right" or "wrong."
I will not debate an opinion because there is no "right" or "wrong" when an opinion is concerned.
Now, if you had said the native language of America is Japanese, then I'd debate you because there is a resolution at the end of that argument.
However, you're wanting to make an argument that can never be won.
I figured you'd say you wouldn't vote. But, that shows your prejudice.
You'd just as soon have a corrupt and unjust ruler in office than have a liberal there. Though millions could possibly be murdered, it wouldn't
bother you as much as having someone who is labeled a "liberal".
"Yeah, many people died, but at least we don't have a liberal running the country that was allowed to make that decision."
You say that, because im conservative, i support McCain.
sort of like saying if somebody is a liberal then they support the WBC.
I don't have alot of time so i'm going to make this post quick... you keep telling people to "prove you wrong" but i don't know what you want
them to prove you wrong about... You posted liberal stances and made it blatantly obvious that you don't stand for those ideas. end of story.
this shouldn't even be an argument...
It's just sad that this guy has baited everyone into fighting with him. That is why I finally put him on ignore. I will debate with reasonable
people. I have even been offended by some posts. However, the majority of those posters would argue in a reasonable manner. This guy is a
singleminded person that will never listen to reason.
ok.. here is your "debate" on your original post, baby rush
you say liberals do nothing but bash the leader of the free world...SO DID REPUBLICANS DURING THE EIGHT YEARS THAT CLINTON WAS THE LEADER OF THE FREE
Not my point. Im not defending conservatives, im opposing liberals. Can you read?
you say the leaders of the liberal party spew filth that condones a one world government...BUT YOU SHOW A LINK THAT HAS WALTER KRONKITE SAYING
THIS...HE IS NOT A LEADER OF THE LIBERAL PARTY
And if you watched that video in its entirety, it shows hillary clinton agreeing with him and
congradulating him, though you didnt make it that far because you were too terrified i was right (and i am)
you say the left ignores bill clinton talking about WMD's in Iraq...IN FACT LIBERAL COMMENTATORS AND TALKING HEADS HAVE SAID THAT VERY THING, I HAVE
HEARD THEM MYSELF
If thats true, show me where, because i have yet to hear one liberal bashing Bill Clinton. A man who is just as corrupt
and hypocritical as George Bush.
you say that liberals tell you how to talk and you give a web link...I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANY "LEADER" OF THE LIBERAL PARTY TALK LIKE THAT AS IT
PERTAINS TO THE WEB LINK
Liberals, more than anyone else, perfer you to use "politically correct" terminology. Being PC tells someone how to talk. I know its hard
for you to make that association, but do try to keep up
and about religion...THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY, NOT THE 400 YRS OF THE DARK AGES, WHERE THERE WAS A MASSIVE GENOCIDE AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS OF GOD.
you say countries that go liberal no longer exists...UHMM... SWEDEN,FINLAND,NORWAY, NEATHERLANDS, SWITZERLAND, FRANCE,BELGUIM, CANADA,ENGLAND,GERMANY,
ALL LIBERAL SOCIETIES
1.) You use caps too liberally...liberal..And time will tell on those countries. Have much reading up on France's new president have you done?
None? Oh, ok, then you cant talk with me about it. He's trying to change that country around for the better, because his predecessors (liberals)
have screwed it up so bad.
Ahhh, finally a debate. NOt a very challanging one, that say, Tyranny22, or Havib would offer, but atleast JimmyX is finally coming to terms with the
intentions of a debate.
see, the ignorance in your post, is that you're insinuating that since im so against liberalism, that i must be a far right winger.
sort of like if you're a liberal you support the WBC.... if you're going to draw crazy assumptions that make absolutely no sense, be prepared for
justified assumptions that make plenty of sense... from people with plenty of sense.
A.) You dont know hte history of me and JimmyX. So you really should set that one out. Also - how is it a cop-out? I rebuttled his arguments. A
"cop out" would be someone posting nothing but jibberish, which is what most liberals do anyways. And you can use 99% of the replies to this very
thread to prove my statement.
B.) I said
For too long, have we listened to the liberal party bash the leader of the free world, and Protest the burial of our heros
Now - you probably already know this, but i post it for ease of referal. My assertions about the church were
1.) They claim to be liberal
2.) There are liberals who support the church
3.) The church is considered liberal
Did i ever once say that you support the church? If, by saying the church is liberal, you associate yourself iwth the church and take offense, then
you're doing yourself a disgrace at your own expense.
I used examples of liberal ideology in their extreme to get my point across. It'd been different if i had said
Winobot supports the church who hates soldiers, because winobot is a liberal
Originally posted by ybab hsur
I say to you, American brothers and sisters, that now is the time to stand up for your right to be an American!!!!
And just what does it mean to be American? I’ll tell you one thing just a few trips to the DMV or the joy of income tax time, or watching the
states that the courts decide on who votes count and the FACT that Americans are the most unhappy with there country and it’s direction since
they started asking this question in polls. You want us to stand up and be proud of a system that only serves the corporate and Israeli interests.
Stand up and be hauled off by the department of homeland security, stand up and be convicted by some clause in the patriot act, or any new draconian
legislation making its way through congress now.
For too long, have we set back with our mouths shut in the interest of peace and self-preservation.
For too long, have we listened to the liberal party bash the leader of the free world, and Protest the burial of
Peace, are you serious? Since 1970 we have had war in Vietnam, in the 80’s we had some smaller conflicts Grenada, Panama, and the start of the war
on drugs. Then in 1990 we had gulf war 1 then throughout the 90’s we never stopped bombing Iraq and we also had the thing in the Balkans, then in
the 2000’s we have had a war on terrorism and gulf war 2 plus the continuing of the drug war.
And since 1970 we have had conservative presidents in Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1 and now Bush 2, congress has been run by conservatives from 1994 to
2006, plus was have had a conservative president for the last 8 years. On what you call the liberal side since 1970 we have had Carter and Clinton
for a total of 12 years of liberalism in the Whitehouse since 1970. And you really like the way things are? And you really think we should vote
conservative? You haven’t had enough of anti constitutional pro corporate government? You haven’t had enough of a government that doesn’t care
what you think? On a side note I would be much happier with a 5 party system vs. the system we have now.
Conservatives are related to the Republican Party and now the Republican Party is related to the religious right and you list a nutjob church as your
example of liberals, lol that’s rich!
Why haven't we stood up? Why do we continue to let ignorance flourish, and hypocrisy run rampant when the leaders of the liberal party spew
filth that condones A one world government
LOL they serve the same Masters but I have a example of the present conservative president pursuing a globalist agenda.
President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This
was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.
Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass
the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and
Canada. A North American Union to Replace the USA
Why, when the liberals very own messiah, Bill Clinton, says things that Support the idea of
WMD's in Iraq does it always get ignored when thrown into this argument, by all liberals themselves?
They based there opinions on what they were shown and told, but what they were shown and told was all lies. It was so easy for them to lie, because
American media is in there pockets, they tell them what to report and you believe it.
Let us no longer continue to allow these people remain on a pedstal. These liberals are the very people who preach freedom of speech, but then
proceed to tell you how to talk
Uh the link you posted has nothing to do with speaking or free speech, let us all remember who invented free speech zones, yup ladies and gentleman
it’s a Conservative Republican idea. Now it is common place both parties are using them.
Then there is the other hero's of the liberal movement
Michael Moore says nothing but bad things about oil and defense contractors; calling them ‘war profiteers.’ He also claims to have no stock
portfolio, yet he owns shares in Halliburton, Honeywell and Boeing and does his postproduction work in Canada – where he doesn’t have to pay union
wages like in the United States. I’m sure his movie was 100% true.
Hmmm has his movies been debunked?
And then, there is the blatantly hypocritical flip flopping that goes on in every nook and crany of the ideology of the left, and radical
We will allow a liberal to handle this reply:
These are the people who oppose the execution of child killers, but support the idea of killing of unborn children as an expression of
As opposed to abortion is wrong but war is good and needed because it’s good for no bid contracts for our corporate buddies.
These are the people who think trees have feelings, animals can conceptualize and the fetus is a blob of protoplasm.
Thank God I’m a moderate!!
They think that a moment of silent prayer at the beginning of the school day constitutes government indoctrination and an intrusion on parental
authority, while sex education, condom distribution and multiculturalism are values
I don’t have a problem with a moment of silence, but sex can kill you and conservatives don’t really talk about sex other than don’t do it.
They treat our law enforcement officers like filthy pigs for doing their jobs, but
then condone criminal activity as a biproduct of a racially fueled law enforcement agency. (side note: Criminals came before law enforcement, if
there was never a crime commited, what would be the point of policing it?)
The militarization of our police is pretty much complete thanks to our wars against drugs and terrorism. We live under a tyrannical government and
they use the police to keep the population in line, or in a free speech zone. I’m not saying all cops are bad, but the people that run em have a
mighty short leash.
They view race riots as justifiable expressions of rage over injustice and fail to see the similarities between a black mob burning a Korean
store and a white mob in the Jim Crow era lynching a black man
Perhaps they were justifiable? The riots did make was for a federal trial in which the cops were convicted of violating Rodney Kings civil rights,
not that the riot was wrong, but what is a crime to one person can be justice for another.
They claim that "seperation from chuch and state" is in our constitution,
but it isn't
They scream freedom of religion, but only when it applies to muslims, jews, and all other non-christian religions.
I personally enjoy the protections of the separation of church and state, however conservatives have admitted to trying to make America a Christian
country a theocracy if you will.
They refuse to understand all of the whining about affirmative action and
are more than willing to sacrifice someone else's employment or education opportunity to assuage their conscience
Hmmm welfare for the poor is bad but corporate welfare is good?
They believe that those child-abusing, religious fanatics at Waco had it
coming but the illegal immigrants - roughed up by California deputies - after leading them on a high-speed chase - are the victims of the
They might be victims of the system in Mexico, why do you think they come here? Would you work for 50 cents a hour or come here and make $6 or $7 a
hour, do the math!
I used examples of liberal ideology in their extreme to get my point across.
well in that case could i say "conservatives support pedophilia because Mark Foley has some sick jollys?"
left and right aside that was a wack thing to say. you started by generalizing all liberals into one group and then dropped that bomb... without even
going into an explanation of what you really meant, thus insinuating that all liberals protest soldiers funerals.
i actually don't really like liberals, or conservatives. i'm very moderate in my ideals. i think you need to tone down the way you bring your
point across because if you want people to take you serious you can't be coming off like Bill Orielly or Rush, you need to first respect the fact
that other people believe other things then you. even as ridiculous as they seem to you. if you don't people immediately take a negative stance
towards what you are going to say.
and i edited my prior post about the cop out thing... that was an error on my part.
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