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Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear

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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by freemindmine
Ok sorry,
What I mean is :we are talking about iran and there comments but you sent links about terror attacks.
All I m saying is that you can not hold iran responable for all the attacks and the US and UK have invaded countrys for years.

That is not what my post said. I did not say Iran was responsible for all the attacks. The links I posted was a reply to a poster who was talking about terrorists in general and why they do their crazy deeds.
Go back and read the post of the poster I responded to.




posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:31 PM
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Smart enough to know when a person has no clue what they are talking about... I seriously suggest you read a bit more on the history of Zionism. Read a few chapters of this and then get back to me. It doesn't take long. Then we may be able to have a real intelligent debate. Not just the rhetoric of Rush and Shawn and Bill O. Dissent is patriotic.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit
Oh no I really do understand your point I just dont agree with it and since your not going to answer my question

For crying out loud, I have answered your question numerous times. Either you are not reading or not comprehending so NO, you do not understand. I will say it again and hopefully you will realize what I said.

I don't know why these crazy people do their insane acts and anyone who thinks they do, are only deluding themselves. Nobody knows why just like nobody knows why serial killers do what they do. They are insane and crazy and probably brainwashed. Frankly, I don't care why. Whatever their reason, they need to be stopped.

As the links I posted laid out, these lunatics have done damage around the world and I don't care why they did it.
Using your logic, are you saying just because in their crazy minds they had good reason to attack all these other countries that it was warranted?
Don't you get it. It does not matter why.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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It does matter why because if we changed our policing the world policies and get out of their lands and quit getting in middle eastern affairs I will promise you and am willing to put any amount of money on it that the attacks on America will stop. Im sure you probably didnt even read my whole post unlike me who read all your links and post. Like I said I understand your point I just dont agree.

If we understand why they attack then we can fix the issue but until then watch your back on that next flight. Oh and get this out of your mind they attack people for no reason and at least read my threads if you cant do that then there is no use debating then it should be you with the lincoln logs


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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by LostSailor
Smart enough to know when a person has no clue what they are talking about.

Really? Then please tell us what you think because so far you have provided nothing to this conversation. Instead of posting a link, please try and use your brain and express your own thoughts on this subject instead of using sly comments in a lame attempt to make a point.


Not just the rhetoric of Rush and Shawn and Bill O.

Oh boy, more dribble. I did not know you were a mind reader.
Please stop your sly useless comments and go back to your liberal underground websites and try to become even more brainwashed.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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Why not just read Al Qaida's stated purpose? Their manifesto outlines exactly why they're fighting. And it makes sense, too. I'm pretty sure the US has the 2nd amendment for just such cases, when powers, both foreign and domestic, corrupt the ideals upon which the country was founded.

If you understand the majority muslim view of international brotherhood, you'd understand why muslims the world over are outraged every time there's an attack, either real or perceived, against their community. If your "people" have been physically or politically attacked constantly over the last 100 years, you'd probably be a bit annoyed with the people who keep on attacking.

Guess what - we played with fire, now we're getting burned.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit
Like I said I understand your point I just dont agree.

Then why ask why I did not answer your question when I did numerous times.


If we understand why they attack then we can fix the issue

There is nothing to fix. There will always be a reason to these nutjobs. Hell, they killed a person for making a movie and posting a cartoon. How do you understand that? So again, using your flawed logic, we would have to stop making movies and cartoons which in any way might offend them. Yes, lets submitt to their every demand and then we will all be safe. Sorry, but it does not work that way. These are not reasonable people and cannot be dealt with like normal human beings.


then it should be you with the lincoln logs

Now you want to start with the sly comments because you cannot make a valid point or realize your point has no merit. Don't be like the other guy who that comment was meant for.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by dave420
Why not just read Al Qaida's stated purpose? Their manifesto outlines exactly why they're fighting.

And you are actually going to believe that rubbish which is nothing but propaganda for public consumption.

And again, what about the other countries that were attacked which were doing nothing but minding their own business.

What about the poor dude who was killed because he dared make a movie that does not show them in a good light or the guy they killed for making a cartoon? Is that in their manifesto? They can take that manifesto and shove it up their ass.


Guess what - we played with fire, now we're getting burned.

It's more like it's only starting to warm. Since this thread is supposed to be about Iran, then I guess the same analogy should apply.
If they cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If they cannot do the time, then don't do the crime. If you play with the big dogs, you might get bit.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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I agree with you on the cartoons and that bear they names muhammed that they wanted to kill the British teacher you wont hear any arguments from me there those people are sick but those arent the people attacking us and you will have fanatics like that ON ALL sides.

I also agree that we shouldnt have to bend to every little demand that they say but when their one demand is as simple as stay out of our business and get out of our lands to me this is a very easy demand because we dont have the money anymore and we are losing a lot of lives policing the world and empire and nation building. We need to worry about ourselves and put that money we save back into our OWN country and not into building Iraq and looking to bomb Iran so we can build them later too. If their demands were gives all your gold and convert to Islam I would see your point but if alls they are asking is to stay out of our business and get out of our lands I dont think that is to much to ask especially considering we are going bankrupt. I threw out the logs joke because you didnt read my whole thread.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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I have told you what I think... You just refuse to notice. We are fighting them because Israel (The Zionists that control Israel that is) wants us to. Our foreign policy is directed by a bunch of people with dual citizenship. How do we know whom they are loyal to first? You think they give a crap about the American soldiers they con into fighting for them? According to Kissinger military men are just "dumb stupid animals" to be used for foreign policy. Here are just a few of the more prominent ones. There are plenty more. But, it's a conspiracy... So it can't be true. It's only true if the government tells you...

Michael Mukasey
Michael Chertoff
Richard Perle
Paul Wolfowitz
Douglas Feith
Henry Kissinger
I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Richard Haass
John Bolton


By the way... I am no liberal buddy. I'm a real conservative. I'm just not a blind fake patriot. I'm done. I've read enough of your posts. Not going to learn anything from you that isn't already pumped at me on regular basis by el Rushbo and his cronies.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by LostSailor
We are fighting them because Israel (The Zionists that control Israel that is) wants us to.

Really? Care to provide some proof or is this only your opinion from within your little world.


By the way... I am no liberal buddy. I'm a real conservative.

Sure, Sure you are.



I'm done. I've read enough of your posts. Not going to learn anything from you that isn't already pumped at me on regular basis by el Rushbo and his cronies.

Ditto!! Except it's from the usual liberal anti-america groups. Way to go!



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Revolutionary Iran was subverted and overthrown in 1988, following the wars in Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq. The current regime is a puppet, probably of the Pahlavi's. The United States was partially subverted in the mid 1970s by the Pahlavi's and Soviets. The Soviet Union collapsed, by design, and all the Pahlavis assets were consolidated, the partially subverted United States was a base of operations for the newly created satanic super-state. Pahlavi lives in Potomac Maryland.

According to plan, the "fundamentalist" shiites of Iran, specifically Ahmadinejad and the Supreme cleric who belongs to the same tribal group as Pahlavi, who are also puppets of the Pahlavis, begin instigating against Israel and the United States. I shouldn't say Iranians because the Iranian people are hostages to this sordid situation, as are many Americans. Using all the crap everyone thinks the Americans did over the past 60 years as pretext. Its was really the someone else.

This great war of our age, this interesting time is coming to a conclusion. And guess who's winning? The stuff the news is talking about is just script. Israel is in no danger of disappearing. The Iranian regime is however.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by LostSailor
We are fighting them because Israel (The Zionists that control Israel that is) wants us to.

Really? Care to provide some proof or is this only your opinion from within your little world.


Before you throw the first stone, do some research. Look up the "Wolfowitz Doctrine" and you will see that he was correct.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah
Before you throw the first stone, do some research. Look up the "Wolfowitz Doctrine" and you will see that he was correct.

Umm.....excuse me, the first stone tossed was by the person making the claim. If you are going to make such a ridiculous statement, the poster needs to provide some evidence. Sorry, but I am not going to take the word of some misc. poster. I don't have to go look up anything. If you are going to make an accusation, prove it or move along.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Umm.....excuse me, the first stone tossed was by the person making the claim.


Did he say something as shallow as "stop living in your own little world" first?



If you are going to make such a ridiculous statement, the poster needs to provide some evidence.


Maybe they're offline and can't post at the moment. Instead, I posted the evidence you're looking for.



I don't have to go look up anything. If you are going to make an accusation, prove it or move along.


Right. So when someone provides you with something that goes against your argument, you act like it doesn't even matter anymore?

Here, since you're not going to do a simple google search:

en.wikipedia.org...
www.ccc.nps.navy.mil...
www.alternet.org...

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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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My biggest problem is that who says this is what he said? Anything that can actually verify that this is what he said? Why? Because if he is talking about Jesus coming back then he is setting himself up for arrest. That is the law in his own country. They do NOT believe in Christianity and it is illegal to preach it.


To me, it is simply a scare tactic to try and give the U.S. (Bush) a reason to invade the country that he has held in his sights right along side of Iraq. If the people fall for this BS again then we deserve whatever we get.

As for the secondary reasoning for this happening, well, I can see the logic there if we were to step back. However, if the 'creator' is all loving then why would it force so many of its creations to die and suffer so extremely just so a small portion could enjoy peace?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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Destroy Israel and give them their land back. It was a stupid idea to begin with. It's not like your Jewish and have some deep hatred and vengeance against everybody because of World War II. And just because their was a World War II does not imply there will be a third world war.

I do not know who to thank for these 60 years of hell. It's been a waste of time and a waste of money. All those people suck. We have nothing to prove.

I'm not interested in protecting people that hate me and want me to live a miserable life. Some of my family fought in World War II and all that has happened is us being stabbed in the back for their own cause. These people can go to hell.


Just end it right now so we can move on with our lives.




There is no prophecy.



Where were you when Israel didn't exist?



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 03:13 PM
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Very nice links my friend. You see, most people will look at this and say it is garbage because it was never truly leaked. Oh well. We can only do what we can to try and bring this all to light. If they choose not to see then it is their own fault.



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah
Did he say something as shallow as "stop living in your own little world" first?

Umm.....yes, I guess you should try and read all the previous threads.



Maybe they're offline and can't post at the moment.

Which is why I asked for proof.
So what's your problem?


Right. So when someone provides you with something that goes against your argument, you act like it doesn't even matter anymore?

Are you not reading the posts or are you intentionally reading with whatever colored glasses you own. I have answered every poster here who wanted a debate so again, I don't see your point.


Here, since you're not going to do a simple google search:

Am I a mind reader? Tell me, how was I supposed to google 'Wolfowitz Doctrine' with that ridiculous statement the poster made which did not mention the doctrine.



Ok, I read the Wiki link you provided and what does this have to do with the point of the poster in question?
He said, "We are fighting them because Israel (The Zionists that control Israel that is) wants us to."
This statement has what to do with the Doctrine? I don't see the connection. The Doctrine outlined a policy of unilateralism and pre-emptive military action to suppress potential threats from other nations and prevent any other nation from rising to superpower status.

How does this prove the posters argument? Simple, It doesn't.


BTW, the doctrine is a good policy and I don't see all the fuss.

[edit on 3-6-2008 by WhatTheory]



posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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You don't see all of the fuss? How does doing what that docterine proposes keep us from becoming what we supposedly oppose? Such as, the Nazi's? It's a way for the U.S. to be the world rulers and to step on and prevent any other nation at all to rise above themselves? That's a pathetic point of view to take. We were not meant to be dictators but unfortunately we have moved way down that road.

I was agreeing with your response up until you made that last statement. lol



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