posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 10:47 AM
I really have no opinion on this artifact personally as I'm atheist, but if I were Christian I think I would be somewhat unhappy with the whole deal.
The way the shroud's "authenticity" is being handled, represents a proverbial shot in the foot for Christianity from where I'm standing.
Think about it, they're using all these extremely complex and advanced scientific instruments to prove an issue of faith. Religion can't have it
both ways, it can't say science is bad, evolution is a farce, the big bang is a lie, dinosaurs are a test of faith, there was a world wide flood
where everyone was killed, all of these arguments that have science standing in opposition of, are wrong because in those instances the science
doesn't back up the religious claim.
But when Christians can find a single instance where pure science can lend credibility to their faith, suddenly science becomes useful.
Like Dawkins alluded to in the God Delusion, if there was absolute, definitive proof that evolution was correct, that the theory of evolution had
become the fact of evolution, Creationists would say;
"Bah! We don't need proof, we have our faith! In fact, if had scientific proof for Creation, we would not accept it because it would take something
away from our faith, it would become the theory of Creation!"
That's of course absurd! If creationists somehow had hard, scientific evidence that creation as an act of God occurred in a totally literal sense in
our history, they would be jumping up and down, rubbing it in the faces evolutionists till they rubbed their face clean off their head!
This is no different! If they do test after test after test for everything imaginable and every test shows that this is not the shroud everyone
believes it to be, everyones just going to say; "Pshh! We don't need science to tell us the shroud is real, we have faith that it is! Science is
So why are we wasting our time, money and effort to prove an issue of faith that cannot by definition be proven by science? If you start mixing faith
and science, the blade cuts both ways and faith has to pay dues to science if it wants to take it out for a spin.
Can faith really (ab)use science to haphazardly attempt to prove historical instances of Biblical events? If so why can't science be used to debunk
Biblical events, showing them as never taking place? Same science, why not?
[Please stick to the topic, the shroud and scientific evidence being sought to back up biblical events, I was only using creation/evolution as a
parallel to this argument to lend illustration! I'm not actually debating it! I promise!]