Sgt. Clifford E. Stone Answers Your Questions, page 75
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reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 02:39 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by REIKUKI


The asteroid that changed its course was in the main stream media quite briefly. I remember reading about it and seeing a report on TV. Then there was nothing about it until I read Jim Marrs book "Alien Agenda".

Thank you for bringing that one up, as I do remember it.


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 09:35 PM by REIKUKI
reply to post by hammanderr



would love to have someone with Cliff's breadth of claims, actually produce solid proof


What kind of solid proof you want?, you need to understand that this kind of information is very dangerous, and maybe you can speak, but im sure that if you try to show some solid proof you are immediately killed, and it's even very difficult to get some of this solid proofs. What do you want? that cliffs moves a UFO to your home? but you know, he says this entites DONT WANT TO INTERFERE in our lifes, so cliff cannot invoke this visitators every time someone is doubting about his veracity.
You cannot demand SOLID PROOFS blindly without understand what can be showed, and what implies if all what the other is saying is true.

But you have some verifiable info that you must investigate if you really want to know the truth, and the info that STONEY had provided to investigate is the most interesting material i had ever seen. I became very concerned about 1991VG when i discover that all official webs gives contradictory orbital information just to began. And not only this, i began to be interested in this topic when i see in TV a famous case that take place in my country, in this program a figther pilot (air force somander retired but still in reserve) speak about how he chassed an object for 300 km before lose it, how this object was anormal, how this object make a civilian airliner to land, etc.... Thousands of witneses, land personel in airports, 30 years later describe the same object. I know my country, i know how is people here and they are not lying. This object was not a stealth plane, i know the characteristics of a stealth plane and no human technology can even imaginate do the things this object does.

Clifford is only trying to move our minds in another way of thinking, but the work to investigate is ours. Just look for long delayed echoes, it's another extrange topic to investigate that takes place, is real, and have no explantion as natural phenomena.

It's tome to break the bubble of ALLUNDERCONTROL science. Reality is that science have incredible enigmas that is hidding from the public, and only shows some symbolic but neutral questions and hide the questions and proofs that invalidates all the current theories including the relativity as einstein explain it, because they don't want to admit that we don't understand what is happening around us, we are not really controlling it, and sometimes we cannot even understand it. You know that 90% of universe is just "dark matter"? and we know it because of the rotational movement of giant structures like galaxies, but the incredible thing is that we have not noticed it in our own common life, if we had never look at galaxies we would ignore that 90% of the stuff around us now is undetectable, so we cannot even see what is really moving around us? And all our science is even uncapable of understand what it is?
i thing that this is enough to be FAR MORE HUMBLE when we speak about our science, and when we demand proofs and accept anything if it comes from science.

Science is very good, but we must be HUMBLE to advance in truth.

god bless!!


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 03:43 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by REIKUKI


I will be honest as I want physical proof too. I want actual government documents on the aliens and craft. I want to see a part of a wrecked craft or an alien body. I think everyone here does.

Here is the problem, Sgt Stone is retired military and gets a pension. He and his dependents get health care and other benefits from his service to the military. If he were to produce a classified document, he would get into legal trouble, and the military could revoke his pension and all the benefits he has earned. He has to tread this subject lightly, as any other retired military member does. Even non retired veterans could lose their veteran's benefits if they do something the military considers illegal. Sgt Stone and others have to think of their families, and not just themselves.

There are other ways to get out the information, and it does seem like Sgt Stone is doing so with the Freedom of Information Act. The other way is to leave behind documents and items as a legacy.

It is hard to believe or even trust what is said without any sort of proof or evidence. The idea should be to listen to what is said, and gather the smaller pieces of evidence to put together the puzzle.

Personally, I am fascinated as to what Sgt Cliff Stone has to say. I will not state that I know it is a fact or believe everything that is said, but I do not disbelieve it. I keep it as a statement until such documents can back it up. The Project Moon Dust documents have proven that the government/military does have the sort of unit Sgt Stone claims to have worked for. That is one fact, now we need more. Time and patience is a virtue for these sensitive topics.



reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 04:39 PM by REIKUKI
reply to post by kidflash2008


Im agree in many of your points, i'm sorry if i was sulfurated but i'm very bored of certain "skeptical" atitudes that turned to be a religion of debunking others, im certainly very ignorant in many topics, but i know enough to see the profound contradictions that our "logical" view point of world has specially in the science area, and many others. Anyway critical sense is something i like a lot and is very diferent from "debunkers" or "skeptics". So i'm agree with you that i would not really belive it if i don't see a alien or a UFO. Anyway if someone ask my if i think that this beings are real i will say YES, i think it's very real.


reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 01:48 PM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by hammanderr
I, like many, would love to have someone with Cliff's breadth of claims, actually produce solid proof. Until such a time, it is difficult to accept the tidbits he gives. He has told such tales, I'm quite sure he has violated his secrecy clearance, what's to stop him from telling more?


Perhaps you find this worthy to read, and who knows, it could perhaps even change your opinion of what you said above.

Sherman’s whistleblower testimony offers important corroborating support for Stone’s claims for having worked on UFO crash retrieval teams. Combined with a number of consistencies with SOM1-01, Stone’s highly specific FOIA requests on Project Moon Dust, his long military service, it can be concluded that Stone’s testimony is very likely an accurate reflection of his experiences while working on UFO crash retrieval teams.


Dan Sherman and Project Preserve Destiny

Dan Sherman served with the US Air Force for twelve years (1982-1994) and received a number of awards including the Commendation Medal and the Achievement Medal. He was recruited into a classified program, "Project Preserve Destiny" (PPD), that was conducted under the auspices of the National Security Agency (NSA).21 The training was for Sherman to become an “intuitive communicator” with EBEs.

Essentially, Sherman would learn to telepathically interface with EBEs and pass on this information through a secure computer system to his handlers within the NSA. Sherman’s training for PPD was conducted at the same time while training for a conventional military career in electronic intelligence (ELINT), which itself was classified.

Significantly, Sherman was told that he suited to the task since he was identified early in his childhood by the military as someone that was capable of communicating with EBEs. He claims that his desire to join the Air Force was stimulated by a Major Roberts stationed at nearby Beale Air Force base who regularly visited Sherman’s home when he was between 10-11 and talked to Sherman about how great life was in the Air Force.

Sherman described that his ELINT training acted as a cover for his participation in PPD. In his book, Above Black, Sherman revealed how he was recruited and trained in a way unknown to his normal ELINT military trainers. The training occurred over the same period as his normal training in ELINT.


You can find the whole article here.
See the interesting chart of Comparative Experiences between Clifford Stone and Dan Sherman.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 06:05 AM by REIKUKI
reply to post by chipmunkrjcc


Can you give us some news about Stoney health?
days are passing and we have no information about Stoney, if he is in better condition or not.

I hope he recover soon.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 03:57 PM by REIKUKI
reply to post by SemperParatusRJCC


Tell us something when you call him please, we are all interested in knowing the state of Stoney.

Thanks


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 09:12 PM by REIKUKI
reply to post by SemperParatusRJCC


Thanks, ohh it's good to know he is okay, thanks for mantain us informed about his status...


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 11:05 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by chipmunkrjcc


Hey, chipmunk. Glad to hear Stoney's doing better.

Just found this thread again.....so this may have been mentioned already....but I found 'The Veritas Show' on utube with the interview with Stoney from February 20,2009.


reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 03:34 AM by MarrsAttax
reply to post by chipmunkrjcc


Hi chipmunkrjcc - the posted youtube link doesn't work. You need to remove the . from the end of the url
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