reply to post by spacevisitor
I tried to get a hold of Cliff by phone, but after his voice mail is filled to capacity, the message is “The mail box is filled, goodbye”. So I
try to get a hold of him in the day time when he is not working. It’s frustrating, because I know Clifford; I worked with him in Roswell and
afterward on different projects. I wish he could work on this full time, but he has a real job, which doesn’t pay much and the hours are crazy. Can
I use that word? His hours are not normal 9 to 5.
Ever since I meet Cliff, I have been doing research on our visitor’s, anything from their life style, technologies, why they are here,
etc. It’s very hard to find information which is official, through the FOIA there is limited amount of documents unless you know exactly where to
look, this is where Clifford comes in. I will then do my own research, request FOIA doc through my sources, which can be the same as yours, You can go
through hours and hours of research, verification of data, which sometimes takes manpower in terms time. You have to stiff through the thru and fake
data, by verifying how documents where marked as classified when they were written. The best way is to look at documents that were de-classified that
are not related to UFO’s. The government always marks classified documents the same way. Either if it’s for JFK, Vietnam, UFO’s, etc.
Being in the field of aerospace, I can kind of see what is real base on what I know, and what is completely off the wall. Of course I don’t do this
on my own. I talk to Cliff and others to verify their stories, the beauty of the internet. I meet many UFO researchers and show what their real agenda
is. If it’s greed or money driven, I investigate more. Nothing wrong in making money on UFO’s, but please use facts and tell the truth. Now we
come to the issue of truth. Who’s truth, etc?
I check with the witnesses from the Disclosure Project, persons who worked on project and saw things, and then I say to myself, what they are getting
out of it. I seen a few documents, and said to myself, they are fake, but it’s not place to say what is fake and what is not. I can’t know
everything and I didn’t expect any one can. The way classified project are set up they are compartmentized. Not any one document is the smoking gun;
I heard that term used a lot.
I think what is important, what will we do with information, are we going to share it, or advertise we got the smoking gun, etc. I feel people should
not use their clearances to brag about that they know something or try to prove a fact. People with clearances; have them to protect our countries
from the enemies who want to use that knowledge against those countries. A lot documents that actual explains our visitors might be also reference
military SOP, etc. In the 50 thru the 90’s we had many wars, so countries tried to use the knowledge as an edge, etc. One document which caught my
eye was; “Analysis of Flying
Object Incidents in the United States” Dated 10 Dec, 1948. De-classified, but originally stamped “Top Secret” It said in one paragraph; “If
the objects have been used in a propaganda sense, it would be reasonable to assume that the Soviets would choose first to frighten pro-American
nations in Europe with the appearance of a radically new weapon to counteract the ability of the U.S. to obtain full propaganda effectiveness with the
atom bomb.” Of course we know now that the Soviet’s also had a UFO program of some sort.
Anyway, it’s getting late, and I have to work tomorrow, I’m in the process of trying to get more folks on this thread. Remember everything we read
and see gets us closer to the truth. It’s up to us to investigate.