posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 05:50 PM
I been posting off & on here at ATS for the past 2 years now. I originally came here interested in the 9/11 stuff but always found myself reading
through the religious/ ancient civilizations/ nwo threads. Religion never sat right with me, ever since I was pretty young. My parents made me & my
brother go to Sunday school and the both of us back then knew something wasn't right about. Growing up in Philly in an Irish Catholic family religion
was shoved down your throat daily. Anyway, Im 31 now and my beliefs, correction....my thinking has remained the same in most repsects. I know theres a
bigger story to human history than what we were brought up to believe. I have my own thoughs and some beliefs on the how, the why, and whens. I know
theres some really intelligent people here at ATS that I learned alot from and Ill let it be known now, that I'm a scholar of NOTHING. The only thing
i know for sure is that nothing is for sure and Im merely someone who thinks way more than I actually talk, I have more questions than answers.
The point of my post is about the growing tension between science and religion, the cost of thinking on your own, and the possible violence as a
result of this tension. The reason Im bringing up violence is a big factor here and is only my personal view and more frequent occurance in my life. I
been finding myself with more & more hostility towards the "believers" for what I think is them pushing thier own branded morality on me. I was
actually threatened with my life by a couple a few weeks ago in a diner over a conversation I was having with a friend of mine. We were talking about
how religion is social control, the bible is plagiarized and distorted, etc. Anyway, the couple sitting across from us were listening to us came out
and said "Excuse me but this is not the place for that kind of nonsense, so we would appreciate it you would take it somewhere else". My response
was "Absolutely not, we're paying customers in a public place and this conversation doesnt involve you and if you dont like it you can leave". Ill
be honest here, I was kind of a dick when I replied to them, a sociopathic side of me that I never knew I had has been coming out more noticeably
lately because of this stuff. We continued the conversation anyway while we ate and could here them across from us mumbling lol. Well, after we
finished eating and went outside, the couple was out in the parking lot getting ready to get in thier car and the guy calls over at me saying I have
alot of nerve trying to spread filth and had no right to say things like I did in public places. I just blew him off with a smug grin like "oh well
deal with it", his tone turned hostile fast saying im gonna burn in hell and he himself would find out where I live and deliver me to the devil
himself. As soon as he said that I turned right around, took a few steeps towards him and his wife like "Alright lets see you try and do it then"
(there was alot more cursing in that of course). This is Philly, you dont make threats like that and not expect attention, when this guy said that, a
couple a neighborhood thugs hanging out heard it and laughed and they started walking towards the couple too, they got in their car and left fast. Im
having more and more encounters lately because of my thinking, and the thing is, I dont push it on anyone. Another small example is the other day, a
neighbor asked what I planned on doing with my car, my car broke down a month ago, instead of stressing about getting it fixed right away I decided to
take the bus for a while and who knows save gas money. So, he asked about donating it to some organization, i dont remember the name but they help
families out that really need it. I said Id seriously consider it and told him up front I have no problem with just giving it away but as long as it
isnt a religious backed organization and that turned into a whole other argument, a whole lot of "ill pray for you" and "you have to believe". Im
so sick of hearing these people telling my thinking is wrong and need to conform.
Im at the point where I cant tell if Im being irrational or if its the bible pushers. The final nail in the coffin for me and religion was 2 years
ago, my younger brother was murdered and police still havent caught who did it. At the viewing, I for the first time ever In my life had the urge to
go up to a priest and absolutely knock his teeth out. All my life up until that moment I always had some kind of respect for pastors/priests even
though i dont believe in what they preach. This slime of a person was using my brother's death a chance to push christianity and the bible on us and
even pointed at his casket and said if we dont devout ourselves we would end up like my brother, I literally clinched my fists and said to myself I
cant believe this mother#er just went there. I still think about what that asshole said and what others like him have said before too.
if you read this far Im sure you can tell Im a just a little bit mre on the science side of things lol. I started this thread trying to make point
but ended up just venting, sorry. Its weird I used to worry about our government but now its the religious rite and their infiltration of free
thinking people who ask questions.