Originally posted by CharlesMartel
The conspiracy theorists never seem to explain the Islamofascists taking credit for the 9/11/2001 attacks

Uh, who?

The Taliban denounced the attacks and said they would help us find OBL if we were able to provide our proof that he actually did it.

Bin Laden himself conducted at least 3 interviews with major Mid-East newspapers where he denied involvement in the attacks. The most prominent of these is from the Pakistan Daily.

In fact, the only early suggestion that OBL or "al Qaeda" were behind the attacks, came (aside from perpetual mainstream media assertions) from a 'home video' that OBL allegedly made, that the US army found in the basement of a bombed-out house in Afghanistan.

In other words, the "confession" video literally came from the army.

I say YES we all need to speak out about the execution and cover up 9/11.
I ‘ve read dozens of reports and have talked to our military coming home from IRAQ, they also believe amongst themselves that it was a perpetrated event.. Why? I have heard several possible reasons. These 5 are just what I have read and seen via video tapes.

1. It was all about the oil and the almighty dollar.
2. There was talk of the US going to the EURO and that would not be a good thing for the government ( Cheney and Bush ) and their minions.
3. The Patriot Act to be brought forward which we later find, as posted that it was actually signed before 9/11.
4. The One World Order concept being invoked
5. There was even a rumor that Full Disclosure was being considered and they couldn't have that.

My belief and questions about this event and how can they keep it going?

The hi-jackers , they identified most of them could not even drive a car, how could they hi-jack and pilot a large airliner?

2. Persons involved, and listed as dead who have since shown up alive.

The fact you can clearly see an explosion on official tapes before the plane hit Tower 1 makes me a bit suspicious.

The Thermite found in the rubble of the towers that shows clearly it was used to cut through the steel girders like butter.

The fact that one of Bush's relatives was in charge of security of the Towers and they had closed it down for some reason 2 days before. Just enough time to get the explosives in place.

What about the “ coincidence “ of the military having a drill at that time and being ordered to stand down? How come no planes were in the air after the first tower was hit? What about the 2nd tower or the Pentagon or the flight on the way to PA, ( Whitehouse ) still no planes.

The “ pulling “ of Tower 7?

What about the Pentagon if a large plane hit , what would expect to find? A much larger hole, a wheel fragment, fuselage, or part of a large wing.. the hole was only about 16-20 feet wide. Pictures before and after the " Impact " show the same computer monitor sitting on the desk in the room just to the right of the impact, and it is still on the desk, yet windows are broken , I believe any kind of a ht would have knocked something off the desk as small as the computer monitor. They confiscated all surveillance cameras within 6 blocks of the Pentagon, why? Perhaps because they showed the missile that was intentionally fired and hit it’s target.

Reports of cell phone calls being made, I was given some information from a reliable source that it is not possible to phone to the ground from a jet, traveling at that speed and altitude and expect to be have a connection, if they all had access to sky phones that might have been possible, but not the run of the mill cell phones. they would not have made connection.

Reports from the pilots on the doomed flight over PA, you could hear the passengers taking control of the plane, a airline pilot posted this is not possible as there is no way to hear the passenger area from the other side of the cockpit, they are reinforced much to strong to make that possible.

I have no doubt that the people of these flights are dead, but I do not believe for one minute any of them died crashing into the Towers, the Pentagon or a field in PA. I am not saying your loved ones did not pay the price of their lives by being on the planes and we all know how many died in NY and for what?

I had a hard choice when it came time to cast my vote for the Primary Elections, but if one candidate would have come forward and say " Elect me and I will tell you the truth about the JFK Assignation or the 9/11 or other lies and cover ups you have been told, and I will give you Full disclosure as to are we alone in this universe, I know I would have voted he or she in, in a heart beat and the Super delegates would not be able to deny that the American people, want, need and deserve the truth.

Charlotte King

Originally posted by CharlesMartel
The conspiracy theorists never seem to explain the Islamofascists taking credit for the 9/11/2001 attacks (as well as the previous Embassy attacks in Africa, the USS Cole, etc.).

The taliban would not turn over OBL to the US becasue they could not provide them with enough evidence that he was behind 9/11.

Originally posted by CharlesMartel
The conspiracy theorists never seem to explain the Islamofascists taking credit for the 9/11/2001 attacks (as well as the previous Embassy attacks in Africa, the USS Cole, etc.).

Why not take credit if you are being blamed anyway and get a few cheers from the home team? Not like that hasn't happened before

"official story" theorists never explain how come half these guys were still alive, or why the FBI has no charges against Bin Laden for 911

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official story" theorists never explain how come half these guys were still alive, or why the FBI has no charges against Bin Laden for 911

Yes, we have explained many, many times the issue regarding the names of the hijackers and the similar names of people still alive. Do some good old fashioned research of the threads on ATS.

The hi-jackers , they identified most of them could not even drive a car, how could they hi-jack and pilot a large airliner?

I have no idea where you got the tripe that they could not drive a car, but thats patently untrue. As for piloting an airliner...I guess you did not realize that several of them had their pilot's licenses.

2. Persons involved, and listed as dead who have since shown up alive.

As listed in my above post, the hijackers, all 19 of them are dead. Men who had similar names are still alive....or do you think that once your mommy and daddy named you, no one else in the world in all of history was allowed to have the same or similar name to yours?

The Thermite found in the rubble of the towers that shows clearly it was used to cut through the steel girders like butter

No, thermite was not found in the rubble, numerous threads on ATS address this fallacy. As for the steel girders cut like butter, you are referring to the pictures of girders with 45 degree angle cuts....which were made with cutting torches during the clean up.

The fact that one of Bush's relatives was in charge of security of the Towers and they had closed it down for some reason 2 days before. Just enough time to get the explosives in place

Nope, none of Bush's relatives were in charge of security of the Towers. John O'Neill was. Again, this has been addressed in numerous threads on ATS...including this one. As for the comment about "enough time to get the explosives in place, that shows a complete lack of knowledge of demolitions....again, addressed in many threads on ATS.

What about the “ coincidence “ of the military having a drill at that time and being ordered to stand down?

You would be hard pressed to find a day during the year where there werent drills of some kind going on in the US military.....and we were never ordered to stand down, thats an oft repeated lie.

What about the Pentagon if a large plane hit , what would expect to find? A much larger hole, a wheel fragment, fuselage, or part of a large wing.. the hole was only about 16-20 feet wide.

Plenty of plane wreckage was found, engine pieces, seats, wheel rims, seat belts, fuselage skin etc...not to mention that the total length of the impact area was about 90 feet.

Reports of cell phone calls being made, I was given some information from a reliable source that it is not possible to phone to the ground from a jet, traveling at that speed and altitude and expect to be have a connection, if they all had access to sky phones that might have been possible, but not the run of the mill cell phones. they would not have made connection.

Most of the phone calls were from airfones, and I know for a fact that you can make cell phones from planes..ive done it, even way back in 2000.

Reports from the pilots on the doomed flight over PA, you could hear the passengers taking control of the plane, a airline pilot posted this is not possible as there is no way to hear the passenger area from the other side of the cockpit, they are reinforced much to strong to make that possible.

Cockpit doors were reinforced AFTER 9/11. And yes, in that final push to retake the plane, the cockpit door on flight 93 was breached......and yes, voice recorders can, and DO pick up voices in that part of the aircraft.

Try doing some honest research and quit relying on BS videotapes.

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer
Despite some of the differences of opinion I've had with you over the past couple of years,

Funny that... I don't recall you as an adversary...

Originally posted by zorgon
Funny that... I don't recall you as an adversary...

The one primary occasion that sticks in my memory involved a very long thread about the Egyptian Sphinx & Pyramids & their proposed age of construction...Water not only under the bridge, but gone way out to sea.