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The Church of Progress

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:09 PM
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John Anthony West talking about it and what it is a little bit-
www.youtube.com...


Blind belief in science as a religous worldview is very popular amongst those in charge of the academic intrititions of today. This is the Church of Progress atheistic religion.

So don't be fooled. What you were programmed to believe by your schools, so called academic institutions, textbooks, etc. is a religous belief system of atheism.

There is always a purpose and reason in the universe, there is good and evil, and there is destiny and order not random chance.


Article about the "Church of Progress"-
www.jawest.net...

next part
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National Pornographic
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Magical Egypt
www.youtube.com...

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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So the fact that the schools are allegedly "programming" children means that the "programming" I received through the Southern Baptist Church is right? You'll excuse me if I don't see the logic.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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I never mentioned any particular Church's beliefs as correct, let alone the Southern Baptist church you mention.

Both of the programing religions you mention, Church of Progress atheism and Southern Baptist christianity, certainly have their bad effects.



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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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What about the schools in Muslim countries? I can assure you Allah is on the curriculum. As is Hinduism in India- not to forget all those Catholic schools.

This thread also appears to be in the wrong forum!

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hanslune
What about the schools in Muslim countries? I can assure you Allah is on the curriculum. As is Hinduism in India- not to forget all those Catholic schools.


They battle with the Church of Progress religion for idealogical power and influence on people's minds.

The thing about the Church of Progress is that they can be more indsidious and sometimes people don't realize they are being mentally programmed to think a certain way and believe a certain materialistic atheist worldview.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:34 PM
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I think this thread is definitely in the right forum.

One place the Church of Progress tries to control and propgate their worldview, is in the interpretations of archaeological finds and in people's views of history.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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It seems more a religious discussion.

Your link the church of progress wasn't really that. So is there a real church of progres or are you giving that name to general movement of science versus religion.




One place the Church of Progress tries to control and propgate their worldview, is in the interpretations of archaeological finds and in people's views of history.


So who controls this church? Where is the adminstration center for this organization?



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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Well, they are a bit more covert. Things may be a bit more "unspoken" with the Church of Progress, but the members understand what's going on and they are legion. The point is to influence the academic world to become more and more atheist. Look at how big the idealogies of people like Richard Dawkins, James Randi, Michael Shermer etc. are becoming. Many textbooks these days are starting to parrot those people's types of views even.

There's no real official "pope" of the Church of Progress, but it is a real movement popular in academic circlesand it's growing and becoming more influential.

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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So the church of progress doesn't actually exist and you are describing an intellectual movement.

Well so what?

Science has been pushing back religion for two-hundred years - and it will continue into the future.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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It's a movement also of atheistic dogma and atheistic religous belief. So it's not just a matter of fighting against religion or any competing worldviews, but also of pushing and entrenching their own beliefs as well.



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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 01:32 PM
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So?

Most movements in religious, government, business and whatever do the same thing. Occasionally killing people who disagree with them.

It rather a human thing to do.

What again does this have to do with ancient and lost civilizations?



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 01:40 PM
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Most of what you are taught in schools and most archaeological finds are explained to you through Church of Progress glasses and according to Church of Progress dogma.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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In Muslim countries and India too?


You mean those evil bastards are describing cultures and artifacts based on science, reason and logic instead of trying to shoehorn it into somehow reflecting the bible? Those swine!

Give us an example of this villany.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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The amount of power the Church of Progress holds will of course not be the same in every country. Certainly the Church holds alot of influence in western countries though.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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So give us an example of their evil practices?

If you cannot think of any try this. Give us your church based dogma version of what a Neanderthal is.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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Dean Radin talks about taboos in science created in the scientific culture, one which is psychic phenomena despite the fact that there is scientific evidence in parapsychology for it. Another one is that the Church of Progress is against spirituality and spiritual knowledge.
www.youtube.com...

Research indicates that atheistic beliefs make people more dishonest
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Well Hollywood your ignorning questions again.

Enjoy talking to yourself then



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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You asekd-

So give us an example of their evil practices?


And I replied-

Dean Radin talks about taboos in science created in the scientific culture, one which is psychic phenomena despite the fact that there is scientific evidence in parapsychology for it. Another one is that the Church of Progress is against spirituality and spiritual knowledge.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:25 PM
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That isn't an example

Give us an example of what you claim:

Show us a single fact or artifact which is ID by science as X but which by your dogma is actually Y.

Simple



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:27 PM
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Pretty much all scientific theories are wrong, this was even reported by the wall street journal.

So the question is why? Because of Church of Progress dogma.

Any scientific theory could be an example.

I do not follow or ascribe to any dogma

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