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Topic started on 31-5-2008 @ 05:45 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

Obama resigns from controversial church

www.cnn.com

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign confirmed Saturday that he has resigned from the Chicago church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created repeated political headaches for the Democratic frontrunner.

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reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:45 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

I don't think this decision is going to bode well against his character.

The resignation comes days after the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a visiting Catholic priest, mocked Obama's Democratic rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, for crying during the runup to the New Hampshire primary.

I wonder how many ways the NObama's will spin this?

It is pretty damning, even though I understand why he thought is was important.

Most people will have a problem with this.

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community."

Publicly resigning is pretty bold.

AAC

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 31-5-2008 by AnAbsoluteCreation]

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:51 PM by jamie83

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

The DNC is going to seat 1/2 the delegates from Michigan and Florida. They just voted. This makes Obama's nomination almost official.

He is now taking his game to a higher level. He can't afford to be associated with what's perceived as a wacko church. My guess is he's going to name Clinton VP after June 3.

I will be sending my good intentions and thoughts to him.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:54 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

reply to post by jamie83

Interesting. Do you really believe he will pick HRC? Maybe six months ago.

AAC

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:54 PM by vor78

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

I think it has the potential to be a major mistake. It can be taken as an admission that there's something wrong with the church that he's been attending for 20 years, yet he only quit because he had to in the face of poor public opinion. That said, I think he was probably in a lose-lose situation here.

It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by vor78]

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 05:58 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

Originally posted by vor78

It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by vor78]

You said!

I really am enjoying being a spectator to this monumental game of charades.

AAC

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:13 PM by projectvxn

as an obama supporter Im glad he made this decision. Now, there is a war and acrumbling economy...focus is everything.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:39 PM by ybab hsur

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

Wow

This is his answer to saying he coudl no more disown his pastor than his grandmother?

Oh dont forget, as well, that at first he claimed these things never happened.

Obama is a liar and a wolf in disguise. I promise you that if elected, we'll all regret it for a very very long time

edit: oh...and....it took him long enough, wouldnt ya say?

[edit on 31-5-2008 by ybab hsur]

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:41 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

Originally posted by ybab hsur
I promise you that if elected, we'll all regret it for a very very long time

edit: oh...and....it took him long enough, wouldnt ya say?

[edit on 31-5-2008 by ybab hsur]

I said this before bush was elected.

Perhaps your right. But perhaps you're wrong. You shouldn't promise.

AAC

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:43 PM by ybab hsur

well, by your same reasons for thinking this about Bush, you shoudl also think it about obama i would think?

Obama has clearly been lying to us, and it doesnt take a magnifying glass to see what im talking about.

you do see what i mean, right? Or do i need to type out another lengthy post about this subject

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:44 PM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by ybab hsur
it took him long enough, wouldnt ya say?

It's twenty years too late. But whatever. It's just for political reasons.
I doubt his sincerity in distancing himself. At this point he is definately
damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Side note - he'd better win POTUS in the fall. If he doesn't and he has
to go back to Chicago .. his 'brothers and sisters' will not be very
welcoming.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:50 PM by chissler

I think this was a fairly easy decision. A little late and it doesn't do much to silence the critics, but an easy decision nonetheless. It shall be interesting, if nothing else, to see how this one plays itself out.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 06:52 PM by vor78

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I agree on with your first post. The more I think about it, the more I think this is going to really hurt him. For one, as you say, he threw them under the bus when he'd earlier said that doing so (at least to Wright) would be like disowning family. Ouch. I imagine he's not a popular fellow amongst the congregation right now.

But more importantly, Barack Obama has been trying to paint himself as a uniter throughout this entire campaign. So when racial adversity strikes near him, what does he do? He turns tail and runs.

If he wanted to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, so to speak, he should've stepped up to the plate and given a major speech on racial equality from his own church, embracing the sinner and showing him the error of his ways, so to speak. But no, Mr. Great Unifer turns and runs.

I think Barack himself may have just made a mountain out of a molehill.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:11 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation

reply to post by ybab hsur

I see all angles. I just have been desensitized by any real politician, or any outsider's perception of the half-truths that are constantly funneled through the media.

AAC

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:11 PM by ybab hsur

nice response

But i think the better way of putting it is

I think barack obama is trying to make a molehill out of a mountain.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:15 PM by blimpseeker

HA HA HA HA !

what a loser! barak has thrown yet another supporter under the bus to keep his grandma company!

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:26 PM by vor78

reply to post by ybab hsur

Yup. Its just unfortunate for him that he's actually accomplishing just the opposite.

And in other news that can be described as 'the gift that keeps on giving', I see that the Dems decided to only count half the votes in Florida and Michigan in the primary fight. Holy disenfranchisement, Batman!

I never want to hear about 2000 again. Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:35 PM by jamie83

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by jamie83

Interesting. Do you really believe he will pick HRC? Maybe six months ago.

AAC

Hillary is going to make this a BITTER fight after what happened today. This is Bush v Gore 2000 all over again. She's going to kick and scream and cause so much trouble over this that the ONLY way the Dems can save their chances in Nov. is going to be for Obama to pick Clinton as V.P.

Heck, after watching Ickes today, I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton takes this to the Supreme Court. Ickes was pissed, and he was passionate about the principals being trampled, not necessarily that it cost Clinton.

Getting back to Obama, I wonder if he planned his announcement because he knew it would overshadow the news coming out of the DNC rules committee? The announcement came at almost to the exact minute they were voting on the delegates.

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:40 PM by ybab hsur

AMEN

Rofl, i could not have put it better myself.

if they're acting this way before they're president, imagine what this country will be like afterwards

reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 07:54 PM by vor78

reply to post by ybab hsur

Yeah, I imagine that the crickets are going to be chirpin' for a while around here regarding that Dem primary compromise, alright. Pot, meet kettle.

I never want to hear the national Democratic Party whine about 2000 ever again. EVER.

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