McCain Trusted More Than Obama on Economy, Iraq, National Security

Hmm what is Obamas 3 policies on economy you dont like? What is his military policies you dont like?

Economy:

1. When Obama is speaking in Ohio, I really don't like his policy about doing away with NAFTA, but when he's speaking in California and Texas, I don't mind his take on NAFTA so much.

2. The Cap and Trade system is going to be a total disaster on every front, and is going to cripple U.S. industry's ability to compete globally with what amounts to a pollution tax that's NOT going to lessen pollution at all. It's only going to take more profits away from the private sector to be redistributed by the government.

3. He wants to continue to support the ethanol industry which is not only doing nothing to put a dent in the use of oil, it's also causing food prices to rise.

4. The expansion of the Family Medical Leave Act to businesses with only 25 employees. I run a small business that's barely getting by now. This would potentially put us out of business.

5. Increase in minimum wage. Again, we are barely getting by. This would cause us to not hire inner city kids in the summer and instead have the guys that are currently employed work overtime.

6. Obama wants to reinstate the PAYGO rules which do nothing but give the Congress the OBLIGATION to raise taxes to pay for their cockamamie programs.

7. His entire health care system is going to be a total disaster and lead to lower quality of care and higher prices.

8. Obama will increase foreign aid to $50 billion per year, paying for this by increasing the taxes on the wealthiest Americans. I'm sorry, but redistributing more money from U.S. citizens to third world governments doesn't seem like the right thing to do. If our own infrastructure was flawless, then maybe. We need to take care of our own problems first.


MILITARY

1. Obama's plan to immediate withdraw troops from Iraq will allow the U.S. to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Iraq will deteriorate and will quickly fall under control of the Shiites, backed by Iran.

2. Obama's pledge to stop the development of new military systems is just plain stupid.

3. Obama's plan to totally eliminate the U.S. nuclear arsenal by negotiating a deal with Russia is naive.

4. Iran. Obama promises to pay off Iran with economic investment if Iran stops their "problematic" behavior. This will give the green light to every two-bit dictator in the world to increase their "problematic" behavior in order to get financially rewarded by the U.S.

I know that's more than you asked for, but I just typed these up off the top of my head. Some issues are more problematic than others. Generally, Obama's policies look like a compilation of white papers from the Council on Foreign Relations website. That's troubling to me.

McCain has been in D.C. for over 25 years!

This country needs change, McCain has been a part of leading this country to where it is now for a quarter of a century.

If your looking for a change in our government, McCain is not the man to do it, he has been a part of the system for toooo long! He is PART of the problem.

McCain doesn't want change!

If McCain becomes president you will just see the same things over & over again.

If you're voting for change, McCain surely wouldn't be the man you would want to vote for!

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Mind if I take some liberties with your post???

Let's go back in time 8 years to the year 2000:


"Gore has been in D.C. for over 25 years!

This country needs change, Gore has been a part of leading this country to where it is now for a quarter of a century.

If your looking for a change in our government, Gore is not the man to do it, he has been a part of the system for toooo long! He is PART of the problem.

If Gore becomes president you will just see the same things over & over again.

If you're voting for change, Gore surely wouldn't be the man you would want to vote for!"

Now, want to try giving me a better reason to vote for Obama other than he's going to change things?

NAFTA he has been sketchy on I totally agree. The fact is though NAFTA has ruined this country a lot more than we have gain IMO anyways. It has caused us to lose millions of jobs over seas and it isnt fair to us for this reason. We the USA are doing all the consuming. If NAFTA was fair to us then we wouldnt have as high of trade deficits as we have been having. Im for NAFTA but a fair NAFTA where our products are available to everyone. Right now we dont have that hence the big deficits.

Wont Disagree There
You know something people have said that ethanol is causing the food prices to go up but I say its more because oil prices are going up and the prices of oil are going up because of our government spending all sorts of money that we dont have which I will address in another point....

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Had Gore, or Kerry for that matter become president the country, imo, would be in an even worse situation then it is now.

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If time in washington was a case I wouldnt be able to vote for Ron Paul either though so I have to disagree you can be in washington just look at the voting records and if they have been voting on the bills that have put us in this situation then they are no different and should be treated as such.

"Judge by their actions not their words" Thomas Jefferson

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Not trying to get you to vote for anybody!

This is just the way I perceive McCain. He is not a man who likes change or likes to be told he is wrong (or maybe what he voted for in the past was wrong). We don't need another president who sees himself as "the all knowing one" again and who won't listen to rational voices. He is a very hard headed man with a temper who doesn't like to be told when he is wrong! He'll have none of it, and that will get this country into trouble!

Again, not trying to get you to vote for anybody, in fact, I didn't even read your post above mine 'til after I posted mine, Guess I was just venting MY perception of McCain is all.


[edit on 5/30/2008 by Keyhole]

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Thanks for your take on the issues. I can see your point on the areas where we don't agree. Watch the video I posted and you can hear Obama say some pretty outlandish things about his views on disarming the U.S.

YouTube Link

Honestly, I'm really disgusted with the corporate Republicans who dismissed Ron Paul out of hand before the race even started. He was the ONLY candidate that made any sense, and didn't come across as a shill.

With who is left, we're screwed no matter who wins. I hate to say it, but the glory years of the U.S.A. are long over.

HEY... why isn't anybody talking about social security? With the U.S. demographics, this sure be a major topic of discussion, but none of the candidates even mention it.

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K I watched the video Im not sure what the big deal is about cutting down our nuke arsenal. We have enough to destroy the earth 3 times I mean is that really necessary? If everyone agrees then Im in agreement but it cant be just the US disarming and no one else.

I happen to be for arming space. If China is shooting down satellites then there is no reason why we shouldnt be able to defend that. Im not for policing the world or nation building but I am for having the best damn weapons money can buy so if war does have to happen we are the best armed in the world. Think how much better technology we would have if we didnt spend that 1 trillion in Iraq and put half of that towards weapons for real threats.

I hate that my vote "won't count", because I am writing in Ron Paul for president. So, if I want my vote to count then should I decide who has the best chance between the Democrats and Republicans to win the White House and then vote for that person? That, I think, is the truly wasted vote.

Im going to scream my head off if Obama gets elected.Thats just wrong.
I hope Mccain builds up our aging fighters....they still wont send the f22 to combat yet.

[edit on 30-5-2008 by alienstar]

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Don't worry it's an early poll. And when the debates start it won't be long before McCain loses his cool or his brain or both. This poll proves nothing as it is important to voice the concerns of the people. McCain seems little interested in what the people want. He's Concerned with furthering the Bush agenda and offers NOTHING different to the table other than more what? War crimes? Divisive propaganda? No thanks, and with the most recent developments, it's going to be a lot harder to convince the American people that we should vote for him based on experience. Especially since his experience doesn't seem to be helping him figure out that we're all being BS'd. Hello! McCain! Vietnam, where you were tortured, would have never happened if it hadn't been for our government lying and faking an act of war. Jackass.

With all the senators and congressmen that are elected in your federal
government how many actual political parties are represented .
Please dont tell me that that is all there is either rep or dem surely this great democracy of yours must have a broader sprectrum than just two parties.

I don't know what the point of such a poll is.

You in the USA are being asked to choose between Beelzebub and Lucifer as far as I can see, and that is no choice for genuine change.

Your nation needs someone with entirely different ideas and a different frame of reference such as that of Ron Paul or perhaps Bob Barr.

How many of you are aware of Obama's world charity program? Obama wants to obligate a percentage our nations GDP to be sent to third world nations as charity, especially Africa.

I don't know how many of you have read up on what happens with charity funds, but most of it winds up going to the brutal dictatorships and oligarchies that control these countries, and winds up being spent on buying weapons. What aid does arrive winds up creating a growing population that depends entirely on foreign aid. When the foreign aid is cut back by lack of funding or the local war lords demanding higher bribes, the U.S. gets blamed for causing the misery.

I don't know about the rest of you people, but I don't want to fund the ever increasing power of warlords in third world countries, nor do I want my children obligated to pay debts built up to help Obama's relatives take over Africa and establish the Muslim religion throughout Africa.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


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You had me until the whole Muslim thing. Again. Firstly the spread of Islam in Africa has been around longer than you, me, and Obama put together(with respect to our combined ages). But I'm sure that's not important to you...Obama is the one spreading Islam in Africa..Never mind centuries worth of Islamic influence already there.

Talk about a baseless accusation.

While McCain has moved to the right to win the repub nom, he is not GW. Obama is far more GW than McCain. Obama is the one with the idealistic but unrealistic agenda who campaigns on the themes of change, with the being a uniter and not a divider theme.

Obama wants to bail out all the people who bought houses that they can not afford. So is Obama gonna help all of us who realized what a terrible deal the ARMs were, and chose to wait for the whole real estate bubble to collapse before buying, to pay for grossly over priced housing. Why only help people who made foolish choices in buying a home. Shouldn't all prospective home buyers get the same government assistance?

Does Obama have a plan to help the working poor? His church thinks that aspiring to be middle class is not an acceptable goal. How can anyone think that a guy who goes to a church such as this has any respect for the middle class.

As far as temper tantrums go, when I watch Obama, I see a man barely in control of his emotions. Obama's back turning stunt at the state of the nation address proved just how emotionally immature he is. I think it is just a matter of time before Obama completely looses it in front of the press. Then there is Obama's wife. She looks like a walking time bomb. If Obama gets the nom., and the repub attack machine gets into gear, be ready to watch the Obama's explode in public. It will not be a pretty site to see.

Here is how I think McCain would run our country. McCain is more Reagan than Reagan was. Let's face it, for most of the time Reagan was in office, he was pretty much out of it with Alzheimer's, and the Bush family ran the country. McCain will not be a big welfare guy, he will be a guy who encourages entrepreneurialism. But, unlike the Reagan/Bush I/Bush II years, McCain will prosecute corporate scammers and con artists. McCain will stand up for the middle class business endeavors, and work to represent all those who who are working to help themselves. McCain represents the best shot free market supporters will ever have to prove that the concept can work. I doubt it can, but I think McCain would be far better than Obama, who want to return us to the welfare state.

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Obama certainly didn't start the process of the Muslim colonization of Africa, that has been going on for centuries, and now that Europeans have pulled out of Africa, with Saudi money funding the adventure, Muslim expansion in Africa has accelerated. Obama will simply pile on to support the political ambitions of his relatives in Africa. Go to Obama's churches website. Africa is their goal.