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SOMEONE! who saw the Denver, alien footage today, must have some info....

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posted on May, 31 2008 @ 04:02 PM
reply to post by bismarcksea

The camera is inside facing out. The doorway is behind the camera and the alien is outside. Good job understanding the concept of reflection.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Lone Star Patriot
There is no way we could be alone. I just think that is arrogant to think. (Not directed at you just in general)

Well, many people - including myself - believe that we are NOT alone, and there is other intelligent life in the universe.

However, that doesn't mean that I think that we are being vistied by these other intelligent beings.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 05:01 PM
Just don't pay the guy in Denver no single cent, buy no Video from him, then this story will fade off.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 05:10 PM
i dont believe in extraterrestrials or alien spacecraft, but if i had real, hard proof of an alien life form i wouldnt go on larry king or hold a press conference and not allow people to see it. i would go straight to the news with the original video and the fbi or cia. i would allow anyone to see it. i would flash the video everywhere and i wouldnt want a dime for it. it would be the greatest discovery in the history of earth.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 05:28 PM

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 05:34 PM
This is interesting. I look forward to seeing what happens

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 05:57 PM
I noticed on Peckmans news coverage he stressed he had a film expert look at the "film" and noted the "film" had not been doctored or faked. I like how he stressed film and not incident or the prop alien his buddy hoisted on his back to reach up to the 8 foot high alien. I also read where he had put on a alien themed halloween party at his house and that there had been several prop aliens used for decorations, i suppose they were rented or something. Anyways I have tried to go back and find where I read this but I cant seem to find it, if anyone else has come upon this knowledge can they pls post it. Reason being its kinda funny he had a alien themed party with props a few years ago and this was filmed a few years ago. Of course that may be a stretch but you have to look at every angle. If anyone comes across the article about his party I would really like it, I was searching aliens in windows + peckman at the time i found it.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 06:03 PM
reply to post by dgtempe

My god that some long distance stalking....after thousands of years of evolution I am to believe that a group or colony or race of aliens have set out to stalk John Peckman....not thru teleportation, not thru hypnosis and then walking him back to a ship and conduction a series of x-periments, not by mind scanning or some type of alien goo molds of the brain to later reproduce a clone, but by Peeping thru a window......pedophiles never change do they. lol

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 06:06 PM
reply to post by dgtempe

I think it looks like Charlie Brown.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 06:13 PM

Originally posted by jalien
reply to post by dgtempe

My god that some long distance stalking....after thousands of years of evolution I am to believe that a group or colony or race of aliens have set out to stalk John Peckman....not thru teleportation, not thru hypnosis and then walking him back to a ship and conduction a series of x-periments, not by mind scanning or some type of alien goo molds of the brain to later reproduce a clone, but by Peeping thru a window......pedophiles never change do they. lol

Funny, but your simply assuming here.

Aliens? what the hell do we "really" know about them?

Maybe they are highly intelligent in space travel, spent most of their time learning that but not in other things? ever thought about that lol.

Maybe they are from THIS planet!

maybe they didn't travel as long as you might think.

All I'm saying is we are simply assuming about so called aliens we have no idea about. We really don't know anything about them at all.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 07:03 PM
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People

Eww. Your name disturbes me, just a tad. Are you a grey? Sorry bad joke,

You do have a good point. We are perfectly happy here on our green planet why go some where else? Maybe they feel the same way? OR maybe they are OLD enough to know they are better off not venturing off and being nosey? Who knows?

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 07:17 PM
Romanek has been peddling this stuff for years, those in the know are aware that it's all a load of nonsense.

If they've had scientists analyzing the footage and other "data" for what, 5 years, WHERE ARE THE RESULTS? Exactly WHAT took 5 years to analyze? Who are these scientists?

The "video expert", a one Jerry Hofmann, is listed as a faculty member at the Colorado Film School. I don't see ANYTHING online that details his professional experience, image processing credentials, or what "machine" he supposedly used to determine that the video "was not manipulated in post". Further, anyone looking at that thing, and the way it moved - especially at the end - knows it was a puppet. Of COURSE it wasn't added in post - it was shot in camera, as what's known as a "practical effect". And let's get something else out of the way - most of the credible reports I've ever read on the "grays" NEVER mention one blinking. I feel that this was done in this case to try and make it look more realistic, which is doesn't, to my trained eyes.

The creepy huckster putting together the documentary - Jeff Peckman - well, one of his other business ventures are his "Metatron Harmonizers". He claims to have worked out the magnetic frequencies for "peace, fulfillment, Divine Love, Divine Grace and Divine Truth." I wish someone would figure out the frequency for the perpetual orgasm, now THAT'S something I would buy in a heartbeat.

'Nuff said. Nothing to see here, it's a ball of moldy wax, IMO.


[edit on 31-5-2008 by davidbiedny]

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 07:23 PM
So we know the facts about the "release" of this video:

1. Peckman is requesting a city commission for "dealing with issues related to the presence of extraterrestrial beings on Earth." The original proposal required a $75,000 bond for the council.

2. The video has been witheld from the public eye (protecting the possible DVD sales). The original reason for the video not going public WAS their current talks of it going into a documentary. The story quickly changed once the news got much larger, and the reason the video was not getting released because of the complexity in the "case".

3. A significant amount of hype has been generated from this video, giving Peckman an upper hand in his plan for a city commission.

"I've got about four or five interviews already, and I'm in discussion with Inside Edition, Good Morning America, Fox national news and a Moscow TV station that wants to send a team,"

"NBC national wanted me in five different time slots tomorrow on different programs. I took three of them,"

My question is...are there any legal problems Peckman can run into down the future if / when the video is debunked? False information / proof in order to spearhead a new city council which he will most likely want to lead, or chair seems to be something our laws protect us from?

There seems to be too many things going wrong for this "release" (1. standard, shady alien footage 2. other motives for it's release 3. credibility of the people involved, and plenty of other problems), that I'm 100% sure this is a complete hoax.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 07:26 PM
Australian news presenters made a laughing stock of that picture plus some other ufo videos that was aired this morning at 9:15 am.

It was so embarasing to watch as they fell about laughing and not taking any positive views whats so ever, you could tell the whole thing was staged.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 07:40 PM
I cannot beleive it, but I'm really starting to buy the Punisher shirt theory. It really does look like a guy in a punisher shirt. He gets up on a ladder to look at the girls every night. Boom. Mystery solved.

An interesting thought. For those who have been keeping up on the news and saw the picture of the uncontacted tribe. that tribe has NO idea of what's going on in the rest of the world. they don't know we exist. I was thinking about how when they looked up and saw a plane, they thought it was some sort of God, devil bird, alien. That made me think, wow, what if we're an uncontacted tribe? And there's this swirling universe full of life and they've just chosen not to contact us yet. Just like that tribe, we occasionally see something in the sky, or something peeking out from behind a tree. Interesting.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 08:38 PM
The 2 seconds of Footage:
It's grainy, it's out of Focus, It's to dark to deduce anything.
So it must be real!!
You know it's Fake when some Dude comes along and says
as sosn as I saw it, I knew it was real.
It just amazes me what extraordinary lengths people will go
to get their 15 Minuets
Whens the Book coming out?

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 09:38 PM
I think we're further away from disclosure today than we were on Thursday, honestly. Look at that thing, it's either or shirt or a cut out or a mask or whatever.. actually I doubt a mask, masks have some depth to them.

The news thinks its a joke and not the kind where everyone in the room is laughing. If we were moving in the right direction before, which I believe we were, then this just stopped us cold in our tracks.

We gave the powers that be credibility in their story that UFOs and aliens are just fantasy. If I were to take their stance and walk in their shoes, I'd think this story was great, of course I'd let every broadcaster in the country distribute these ridiculous images!

If we're to hope for anything at this point, it should be that Peckmen realizes what hes doing, stops this fairytale and disappears forever. At least that way we can create an elaborate conspiracy to explain it and maybe break even with where we were before this embarrassment.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 09:44 PM
One of the issues with the punisher shirt theory is that I thought it was said it blinked. Of course, that doesn't nullify it but just puts in hurdles.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:05 PM
reply to post by Lighthead

Well.. ok, lets say we give him the blinking and its not shown to be post-production. Then it looks like a cutout with separate eye lids.

My point I'm getting at here, isn't that it's specifically a shirt, I just think it's a funny coincidence. My point is, it looks like a shirt.

If you were to somehow photograph what you thought to be a duck under certain lighting, which in reality was a chicken, and on film in this lighting looked like a turkey...

it doesn't matter if you want it to be a duck and if to you it was in fact a duck, if to everyone else who looks at it sees a turkey plain as day. Removing the fact that both are wrong to begin with from the argument.

It looks like it could be made of construction paper, everyone with eyes is going to see a construction paper alien. It's probably not a construction paper alien, its probably not a real one either, but thats not what it looks like so where does that leave us? With a construction paper alien.

posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:08 PM
Wouldn't matter what kind of evidence anyone brought forth, I think people would just gripe and say it wasn't real. I'm new here and this is the worst place ever to try to have a decent conversation about anything. All people do is try to tear down whatever the other one says for no reason except sport. But, I haven't looked today, but that person doing the thread on the occult, some devilworshipper and everyone minds their manners on that thread. They must be afraid he's gonna hex'em.

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