posted on May, 30 2008 @ 12:08 PM
I just wanted to drop in and give kind of a third party opinion on this whole topic. I will say that I can't decide which side of this Creationist
vs. Evolutionist/Science debate I take, because neither have been proven beyond all doubt. That said, I'm not here to take either side. I often
consider my vantage point somewhat ubiased because I try to look at and accept all directions of an argument. I've read these forums for quite
sometime (nearly 2 years) but only recently have I felt comfortable enough with my knowledge to post. You don't have to take this post to heart, but
at least hear me out:
The problem I often see in threads isn't always the Creationist, nor the Evolutionists, Skeptics, Ufologist, or what have you.. It is the way people
approach debates. Instead of approaching topics as DEBATES, they approach them as ARGUMENTS. I'll agree with the OP to the point of saying, topics
are going downhill and a lot of garbage is repeated and what not. I rarely see debates where all angles of opinion are respected by all involved in
the debate. Instead of listening to what the other person has to say, analyzing it, considering where the opposition is coming from, and making a
thoughtful and legitimate rebuttle.. I notice that a lot of posters will read the title of a thread or a few sentences from a post and respond
accordingly. Because of this, you often see several wasted posts because no one cared to read the other person's post thoroughly and with an open
mind. This often results in miscommunicated arguments, unsupported knee jerk responses, lack of credible sources if any at all, and the worst of all
is the insults and belittling of the opposition's opinion. Which in turn leads to similar responses from the OP's or the opposition.. It's a
The process allows for very little, if any, real intellectual DEBATE. It turns into a name calling, finger pointing, mud-slinging, "ARGUMENT" at a
child like maturity level that more often than not results in zero progress.
As the OP stated, arguments used to be well sourced and intellectual. I feel that to make an argument, you must be able to provide credible sources
to back your claims and I think many people would agree with this. A certain respect and understanding must exist between all members of the debate
too. Presently, I am hard pressed to find a thread where any subjects are supported with credible and or NEW information or sources. Nor can I find
many where the "mutual respect" I speak of exists. Many threads often turn into what I have already discussed and many are just repeated and
redundant threads which also turn into ARGUMENTS as opposed to DEBATE.
The point I'm trying to make is this:
No matter what your beliefs are and no matter how much knowledge you possess concerning a subject, you MUST RESPECT and at least try to UNDERSTAND the
opposition's point of view to the best of your ability, even if you do not agree with it entirely. After, and only after those steps are taken are
you able to make a respectful and intelligent rebuttle to the subject of debate. A mutual respect for eachother's beliefs must be present in order
for us to peacefully and intellectually coexist.
EDIT: Fixed a couple errors.
[edit on 30-5-2008 by ZiggyMojo]