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Originally posted by Astyanax
Is the End nigh?
Now, I'm not suggesting that creationists are conspiring to take over the board or anything; despite my years on ATS, I'm not that paranoid.
These pointless threads are created and sustained by a new breed of ATS member, the type who gets his information about FTs from TV 'documentaries' and science-fiction shows like The X Files. The quality of discussion has plummeted.
The creationists, though, are another matter. They are the people I referred to earlier, the ones who ended their quest for meaning in life by immersing themselves in some degenerate offshoot of the Christian religion.
However, this is dangerous work -- many of my favourite members have been banned because they took on the creationists. The reasons for their banning were all different,
Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
Your question isn't really fair. In essence, your asking me how I would have handled a discussion that I didn't agree with versus a discussion that I agree with. Obviously I would handle them differently, as I'm sure you would. Its all great debate though. I had fun and learned some things as well. That's what its all about, right?
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
I think ATS values freedom - even creationists opinions - even megalomaniac atheists opinions too - why suppress human rights? Is your science so threatened Asty? Afraid of the light of exposure?
This is my philosophy:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Your rant reminds me of a book I read once...
[edit on 5/30/2008 by Bigwhammy] [/quote
This post sums it up.Believing in a a man in the sky =Good.Believing we are that man in the sky=Bad.The Constitution is a brilliant piece of work.Too bad most americans dont adhere to it.Or they adhere to it when it suits them and ignore it when it doesnt.I was just thinking about this today.What hypocrisy to have this quote,
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
And then have a flourishing slave trade until 1865 and some say that goes on to this day.And to top it off to PUBLICLY condemn those who have ideas different from what the Vactican says.I mean cmon just recently the Pope says its ok to believe in Aliens?I mean are those of religious faith that afraid to speak their mind that they need the Pope to speak for them?This was Jesus' arguement with the JEWISH temple priests.You dont need the church of priest to connect with God.God has no use for money yet religions collect billions of dollars a year and dont pay a dime in tax.I cant speak for other synagogues but why does someone who donates more sit closer to the Torah?Or the Bible?This type of behavior is what turns me off of religion.Fanaticism and extremism are also what turn me off of religion.Mel gibson in his anti-semite rant claimed that jews caused all the wars in the world and that the jews killed christ.No mel they didnt but RELIGION has caused most of the wars throughout history.If jesus does come back like they claim i hope he kicks everyone ass for acting this way and tells everyone to smarten the fock up!
Then came the internet.
All of a sudden, FTists could easily communicate with each other and the rest of the world. They could network, and spread their theories wider.
The internet has spread FTs far and wide.
The invasion of the Godly
As the years went by, I noticed the complexion of ATS changing.
As you obviously fall into this catagory you should put in a proposal. Here is a working Title for You.
In keeping with Sir John Templeton's intent, his Foundation serves as a philanthropic catalyst for research and discoveries relating to what scientists and philosophers call the Big Questions.
Our Philosophy of Grant Making
Dear Potential Grantee of the John Templeton Foundation:
We look for bold ideas that engage the "big questions" and draw in multiple disciplines. The division of labor and increasing specialization in most fields means that some of the most interesting, difficult or profound research questions don't get addressed. In a contrarian spirit, we try to help give great minds the space and opportunity to address significant questions and issues that cross disciplinary boundaries.
Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
reply to post by jamie83
I never said "Creationists" were closed minded...I said Christians were...man, people sure do like putting words in my mouth. I myself believe in a supreme conciousness....
[edit on 5/30/2008 by Mad_Hatter]