Originally posted by atlasastro
Has it happened yet, has ATS been destroyed.
Have the creationist destroyed ATS yet. I guess all the creationist bashing saved ATS from certain doom.
Damn, were else can the creationist go to do this.....

In context: this thread was created not long before stricter forum rules were put into effect in the origins forum. They were needed as much of what was being posted was not conspiracy related.

Failed attempt to see Anonymous post.

Sorry.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by Astyanax]

" creationist will destroy ATS "

L.....................O..........................L


hahahahah, this was the funniest thing I read all morning, thanks for the laugh.

JesusisTruth. so how long ago do you believe the universe and our planet was made? what do you base this belief on?


[edit on 7-9-2008 by riley]

I don't know when the thread was made. I didn't check the dating.



Riley I don't know when the universe was made. I know that outside of earths rotation time doesn't exist, so what was 100s of years ago was as is now in space.

But truly God is amazing, I know it's hard to believe but I do. That is something I will find out when I'm dead. I always wonder many things about God and truly I know nothing.

The only thing I know for certain is that goodness and jutice are real and that this force implanted it in us as I call him God.

and so I take comfort that one day only good will exist and nomore evil and I can't wait to see this day.


peace.

I don't have proof about earths rotation and time.

as for being late, lol. I was the (Truth) along time ago in about early 2002. I've been here forever.

I don't remember the thing with the administrators.

The entire concept of this threads is complete nonsense.
There is not a conspiracy brought on by creationists to destroy ATS.
What I do see here is an attempt to try to silence creationists because the op is offended by what he either cannot understand or is not willing to understand.

Instead of creating a thread that is constructive, the op opens a thread as a bait tactic to try to get creationists to react so he can say I told you so.
Well, I am a Christian who wholeheartedly believes God created everything, except the thoughts of mankind.

Just as we are free to express our points of view in the USA, members on ATS are also free to express and share their points of view.
The paranoia the op is displaying is only a tactic to try to silence and stop creationists from sharing what they believe.

In my experience so far I have experienced evolutionists ganging up on creationist.
So what if creationists agree with one another.
The evolutionists do the same thing.
Supporting another's post is not a threat to the existence of ATS.

Threads like this should be allowed just as creationists threads should be allowed.
And, ANYONE should be allowed free speech and not be censored just because someone disagrees with them.

For the op to accuse creationists for the supposed down spiral of thread content is just plain slander, libel, and lies.
I don't see where the op is coming from at all.
I see rich content in every thread I've viewed and participated in.

If the op can't handle the heat maybe he should not come here and participate.
From what I've seen, ATS is set up to invite beliefs and opinions of all people.

I myself simply join in on the conversations, and I try my best to not posts posts that may appear to be attacks.
But this thread in itself was an out and out attack on creationists accusing us of things we are not guilty of doing.

I will pray for everyone in here, and I hope that the lies will stop.
In any case, I forgive the op and those who agree with him.
Hopefully the op will see the light from those he hates so much.
Maybe the op will stop mingling false ATS history with ATS historical fact.
The op should not even be bringing the owners of this site into his own grudges for those he does not like to hear.

I believe we all have the right to express ourselves and what we believe.
To ask anyone to shut up, or even to try to censor them, is the wrong way to handle a discussion.
If you don't agree with them, then fine, but don't get all mad and try to get them banned or try to have their threads removed.
Be civil.
Be creative.
Be understanding, but you don't have to agree with them.
Be clever.
Let others express themselves.

And, don't worry op, because you will get your wish one day, when the antichrist rules the world.
At that time, not only will creationists and Christians be shut up, but we will be killed for trusting in Jesus.
Until that time just try to deal with us with civility and not hostility.

[edit on 12/1/2008 by SaintlyMic]

Originally posted by SaintlyMic
And, don't worry op, because you will get your wish one day, when the antichrist rules the world.
At that time, not only will creationists and Christians be shut up, but we will be killed for trusting in Jesus.
Until that time just try to deal with us with civility and not hostility.

I love how you began your post accusing the OP of baiting creationists.. you then finnish your post alligning "evolutionists" with the anti-christ (and killers..?) and now in the very next sentence you make an appeal for everyone to be civil and not hostile.



[edit on 1-12-2008 by riley]

Originally posted by riley

Originally posted by SaintlyMic
And, don't worry op, because you will get your wish one day, when the antichrist rules the world.
At that time, not only will creationists and Christians be shut up, but we will be killed for trusting in Jesus.
Until that time just try to deal with us with civility and not hostility.

I love how you began your post accusing the OP of baiting creationists.. you then finnish your post alligning "evolutionists" with the anti-christ (and killers..?) and now in the very next sentence you make an appeal for everyone to be civil and not hostile.

The op did everything I stated.
I said nothing to the contrary.
I never said evolutionists were aligned with the antichrist.
You said that.
I said that the op does not have to worry about having us shut up, because the antichrist will shut us up.

My post is right on topic.
Yours is not.

Not on topic? I don't see how it isn't.

..oh I see you are indirectly quoting T&C at me. subtle. The OP wasn't being dishonest as there WAS indeed some problems with (a couple of) creationists causing trouble (ganging up, abusing, posting porn in profiles and posting (non conspiracy) creationist propoganda etc) but they were either banned or started followng the rules.. admin clamped down on them.

I am wondering why you bothered bumping this thread just to have a go at the OP though.. we've just tried to let sleeping dogs lie.

Which is what I will try do again.. here's to this thread getting buried again.

[edit on 1-12-2008 by riley]

Oh boy. My favorite thread ever was bumped.

Originally posted by SaintlyMic
the op opens a thread as a bait tactic to try to get creationists to react so he can say I told you so.

You're smarter than me. It took me until like page 10 or 15 (something insane like that) to figure it out.

OK.

*Breathes in. Breathes out. Counts to ten. Zens. Walks away.*

SaintlyMic was the one that bumped it..

Originally posted by riley
Not on topic? I don't see how it isn't.

..oh I see you are indirectly quoting T&C at me. subtle. The OP wasn't being dishonest as there WAS indeed some problems with (a couple of) creationists causing trouble (ganging up, abusing posting porn in profiles etc) but they were either banned or started followng the rules.. admin clamped down on them.

I am wondering why you bothered bumping this thread just to have a go at the OP though.. we've just tried to let sleeping dogs lie.

I'm not bumping this thread.
The op should not have accused the creationists of the things he accused us of doing.
I found this thread because ATS is advertising it in the off-Topic area.

The op was completely coming against the creationists and blaming the creationists for the so called problems in ATS.
The op didn't just blame a couple of creationists either.
The op said that there was a whole group of creationists out to destroy ATS.

A couple of creationists is NOT a problem.
But the op was addressing all or at least most of the creationists.
His notion that it was the creationists fault for the supposed destruction of ATS was clearly apparent.
Not only that, but the op stated that the creationists have been the reason for the calamities of ATS.
The apparent warnings and concerns of the op were apparently not even an issue.

ok.
Fair.
Now, show me who exactly was posting porn.
Show me who was ganging up on evolutionists.

Just because someone claims they are a creationist does not mean they are.
Anyone can pose as a creationist and then put up porn to try to discredit the creationists.
Prove to me that the creationists have been the problem on ATS.
Otherwise your claims are null and void.

And, it appears to me that the op's idea that the creationists would destroy this site has proven to be a lie.
ATS is still here and so are the creationists.

Also, if you, or them, or even ATS was going to let "sleeping dogs lie" why would this thread still be allowed to remain active?
By ATS leaving this thread active, and then advertising it as well, they are NOT letting a sleeping dog lie.

[edit on 12/1/2008 by SaintlyMic]

You have NO right to demand proof of what I and others were subjected to.. especially months after the fact.

If you really want to know the specifics of who got banned and why.. ask admin.