I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw the connection to the Hitleresque propaganda in this thread. I didn't mention it in fear of sounding melodramatic but that is pretty much the way this thread is sounding to me, too.

The Jews are destroying Germany!
The creationists are destroying ATS!

Get rid of the Jews!
Get rid of the Creationists!



It's even scarier seeing so many people applauding the O.P. Goodness gracious.

I always have to laugh at this debate. Its always struck me as a dog chasing its tail. Evolutionist believe that all is hapenstance and can be proved by the scientific method. Creationists believe in a supreme being supplying the many universes with everything needed. I hardly ever see someone mention that it very well could be a merging of both beliefs. Someone or something started this whole conglomerate of life and universe. Could it be that this something or someone is the creator as it is named by both parties? If we take the scientific method to prove anything nowdays its usualy bastardised into a **** consensus**** for a certain political motivation. Since a consensus is definatly not proof of anything but just opinions agreed upon then only one thing is left to facilitate the truth.....FAITH IN WHAT ONE BELIEVES...! Those with the faith of a Gods creative genius are no less correct than those with a faith in creative evolution. Neither can be proved beyond that which one believes. Evolution is fact but is it hapenstance or is it preplaned by who or what ever started it all??? Does anyone realy know for sure or are we at each others throats for our individual faiths on what is reality to us as individuals. We very well might be disagreeing for no real purpose. Our faiths may meld eventualy!!
Zindo

Originally posted by AshleyD
Oh dear. So much bunk and false information I don't know where to start. Allow me to start with this little tidbit before moving along to Astyanax.

Originally posted by riley
This forum was originally created to discuss the conspiracy against evolution theory and did and ignorance was denied.. yet now it has devolved into a platform for pro-creationist religious right propoganda where they have managed to turn this forum into a creationst vs ToE wrestling match.

Riley. In my evolution thread, I remember you repeatedly trying to get me into trouble for various reasons and tried to get my thread moved. First you very vocally and repeatedly accused me of 'political baiting' simply for debating evolution until I had to remind you it was a scientific discussion- not a political topic.

Ownage?
You wish. You were labeling ALL evolutionists gullable.. it was blatently baiting people. That was your whole point and is your point NOW. I have REPETIVELY asked you not to talk to me as you ALWAYS make personal attacks like you have done yet again. It seems to be a compulsion with you.

Want to talk irrelevent offtopic history do you? Thanks so much for not inviting me via U2U to look at your other veiled insults directed at me. How about how you deliberately inlisted people to gang up on me and actually organised it publically on your [now edited] profiles? [Onward 'christian soldiers ] How about when you made a point of changing your myspace default pic to an insult directed at me and made sure everyone on ATS knew about this humilation? [which you then blamed me for..] How about how you take every opportunity to attack me personally like you just did EVEN THOUGH I have continually asked you to leave me alone and even though I have made a real atampt to avoid you? I did not mention you in my last post at all but you COULD NOT HELP YOURSELF and decided to launch yet another attack on me.

AGAIN: AshleyD: You know we do not get along. I have asked you to leave me alone several times before but I will try again: Please show some restraint and maturity and DO NOT speak to me.. I have had ENOUGH.

Understand?

thanks for proving the OPs point btw.

It is the nature of a "christian" to not realize how closed minded they are. Forgive them, for they know not they have sinned....haha.. you gotta remember man, they just do what the bible tells them to. If the bible told them to jump off a cliff, they'd do it, no questions asked. I mean, nevermind the fact that the creationism dates the dawn of civilization back 6,000 years ago, whereas the Great Pyramids in Egypt have been dated back, what...to 12,000B.C. ???? [Source: Fingerprints of the Gods by Garahm Hancock] Read a book. And I'm talkin about hardcore christians here. If this description does not apply to you then I am not talking about you, so don't take it personally.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
I hardly ever see someone mention that it very well could be a merging of both beliefs. Someone or something started this whole conglomerate of life and universe. Could it be that this something or someone is the creator as it is named by both parties?

It's called Scientology. And L. Ron Hubbard sucks at life. I wouldn't recommend falling for his dianetics. It's the only religion worse than Christianity.

Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
It is the nature of a "christian" to not realize how closed minded they are.

Does anybody else find irony in this above statement?

Not only do you smear an entire group of people, but you pass judgment on them by exemplifying the very trait you are alleging -closed mindedness.

Originally posted by dbates
Please, please. Creationists. Even though this forum has the word Creationism in the title, it's not meant for you. As soon as I can find my "No girls allowed" sign from the old tree house I'm going to repaint it to say "No Creationist Allowed" and hang it on the forum door. Sure it will look like something from a Little Rascals movie, but hopefully it will get the message out

Oh my, what a surprise...the Christians are the main ones ranting and raving in this thread... Again putting 2 cents in where it is not needed.

[edit on 5/30/2008 by Mad_Hatter]

Originally posted by Bigwhammy
NEWSFLASH: Asty

ATS is based in California USA

Since when? That is news to me, and I am part of the staff. FYI is was first based in England. Now we see it as an international site.

- We value freedom - even creationists opinions - even megalomaniac atheists opinions too - we don't suppress human rights like you are advocating.

Yes indeed. We value all opinions as long as they are discussed in a civilized manner. We are not all atheist or all christian. There are thousands of different people visiting and/or posting on this site every day bringing different ideas to the mix. Granted, some may not be as deep and well though out and researched as some of the threads of the past, but there are still gems to be found. I highly doubt that one small group of people will be able to dominate the forum. It's highly improbable IMO.

[edit on 30-5-2008 by TheBandit795]

Originally posted by riley
And yes that was reactionary. Given a moderator has seemingly ignored her personal attack I'm guessing it's okay for me to defend myself..

No need to make disclaimers, Riley. I can handle it, have never reported you, and will never report you. That's a guarantee from my heart to yours.

this thread is meant to discuss creationists destroying ATS, not personal issues between two members so let's keep the he said, she said out of it.

thanks.