Originally posted by wutone
Originally posted by GoodNewsAtheism
And try to make sure you don't get confused about "things discovered by Catholics" and "things Catholicism discovered." That's important and you
seem a little slow on that point.
Thats kind of like me saying, don't get confused about "things discovered by atheists" and "things atheism discovered." That game is really easy
Sure. If you want to compete with humanism, good luck.
So, lets talk about things Catholics do, and things Catholicism does.
The United States is infested with pedophiles who are paid ambassadors of Vatican state doctrine (they are called 'priests'). The Vatican's stance
on condoms has been described in official UN documents as worsening the HIV pandemic across the world. I am certain that the Vatican's condom stance
results in far more deaths every year than Islamic terrorism against the United States causes.
Vatican City is a dictatorial theocracy with a single, unelected supreme leader who is appointed by an unelected oligarchy of doctrinaires (many of
whom are either guilty of crimes against humanity in their support of the Vatican's condom stance, or who are in some way connected to the Vatican's
extensive network of pedophiles and people who protect or transfer pedophiles). Vatican City has a single state religion and you must adhere to the
state religion in order to be a citizen of Vatican City. Vatican City routinely issues condemnations of medicine, feminism, science, equality, and
If you replaced every instance of 'Vatican City' with 'Iran' in the previous paragraph, you would have to remove some information because Vatican
City is in principle worse than Iran. The Vatican is just too politically flaccid to get its nightmarish vision of how societies ought to be run
enforced anywhere. Its impotence has been quite clear ever since extreme-majority-Catholic nations started disobeying official Church propaganda and
started legalizing gay marriage. Fortunately, your average Catholic is smarter and more humane that Catholicism demands her or him to be.
Official Catholic doctrine recently changed to include 'extravagant wealth' as a sin. Meanwhile, last year, Peter's Pence drew in over $100
million. Official Catholic doctrine endorses cannibalism ('body and blood of Christ,' and the Catechism teaches that these are literal).
Official Catholic doctrine and the people who describe themselves (and are widely recognized) as the leaders of Catholicism are pedophiles,
pedophile-enablers, genocidal criminals against humanity, homophobic, sexist, greedy, hypocritical lying criminals.
If you can show me a Richard Dawkins who says that women should not be allowed to be professors or a Dan Barker who thinks that a slow death from AIDS
is preferable to birth control, you will win this argument. If you can show me a Christopher Hitchens or a Victor Stenger who routinely sodomizes
their students, or a Daniel Dennett or a Sam Harris who covers up such crimes routinely, you will win this argument. If you can show me a Michel
Onfray or a Peter Stark or a Walter Kaufman or an Antony Flew who thinks that gay people are evil, or who condemns all of mankind as condemned to
eternal torment from birth, you will win this argument. If you can show me a Wendy Kaminer or a James Randi who teaches their children that
cannibalism is good or that all of their schoolfriends will be on fire forever because they don't routinely devour their savior alive, you will win
If you cannot do all of those things, you have lost this argument.
[edit on 5-6-2008 by GoodNewsAtheism]