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Unidentified creature showing up in Russian ponds and ditches

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posted on May, 29 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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These things are turning up in Eastern Europe and Russia in fresh water ditches, lakes and underground streams.

Can you identify it? It's not a horseshoe crab, freshwater, kinda seem mean as well. This one is small, but they are claiming up to 3 foot long (which I think is probably BS, but makes for a good story.)


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posted on May, 29 2008 @ 01:11 PM
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Looks like something from the fossil records..lol.. Mutation caused by Radiation?

Or it could be some kind of Fresh Water Ray Fish-----"More then likely"


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[edit on 29-5-2008 by Lantian]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 01:14 PM
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It is a very strange looking creature ... almost like a slimy sand shark. I wonder if there are any marine biologists that can help identify this one.
The way it flicks it tail makes me think that it could be barbed or poisonous. Quite freaky actually I would not want to encounter one of these.
Nice find!



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Well I can't say I have ever seen one of those before. Its sort-of tough to get a good look at it, because its flopping around and it looks like their is a pile of mud behind it. But I will throw a guess out there and say that it is in the Notostraca family. Its somewhere between a horeshoe crab and shrimp.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 03:52 PM
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Almost looks like its something out of the Cambrian...



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 03:55 PM
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I've never seen anything like that, but it does seem somewhat similar to a horseshoe crab as others have said.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a newly discovered species though, the depths contain many secrets.

EDIT- I had some things called triops as a wee lad and they looked pretty much identical to this thing. They were much smaller though, never more than an inch long.

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posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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I think you've nailed it testrat.
That's what it looks like to me.


Notostracans can be found on every continent except Antarctica.


Source



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posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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Its somewhere between a horeshoe crab and shrimp.


yup that's it!

I want one


That could be this years Christmas Gift Item for the kiddies



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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it could be an evolved form of a horshoe crab. there needs to be better footage of this creature. does anyone know what type of species its being declared?



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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That is one fugly looking critter. We have not had the technology to really adequately explore the oceans.
Poke it with a stick! We are such evolved life forms.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 04:56 PM
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I almost thought it was fake!

It looks like a trilobite.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 05:06 PM
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It is a bit odd... It does appear to be a decent size on the video however it is difficult to tell since there does not appear to be any size markers/references. The video is also grainy making the anatomy difficult to make out. Considering the size I would have to say is it Limulus AKA the horseshoe crab, possibly one that has recently shed its shell, which arthropods have to do on occasion (that is the problem with having an external skeleton). Here is what I can make out from the video...

The underside (ventrum) there are a set of what appear to be “book gills” a less developed version of the “book lungs” spiders have. Truthfully it appears to be a horseshoe crab due to the separation of its body into the three divisions seen in the horseshoe crab- prosoma , opisthosoma, and the telson. The telson is considered to be the tail of the organism and in Limulus (otherwise known as a horseshoe crab) it is a hard and covered by a spiny shell while in this animal it appears to be fleshy. The prosoma and opisthosoma appear to have a shell but even these appear “softer” in the video than a typical Limulus. I counted what I thought were 6 legs, again consistent with Limulus.

The problem is Limulus is a oceanic species and this was found in fresh water, although if it is as big or even ½ as big as they say then that precludes it from being a member of the Notostraca ie either Triops spp or Lepidurus spp. which never get more than a few inches and the thing in the pic definitely seems larger than a few inches! Also making it unlikely to be a member of Notostraca is that the animal in the photo lacks both a long first thoracopod which should be large and visible at the cranial aspect of the animal and the animal in the video has one solid tail which does not split into the caudal furca typically seen in Notostraca species. Also I don’t believe Notostraca has book gills and they have more segments with legs on each segment which this animal does not appear to have.

If I had to pin it on one thing I would say it is a Limulus that recently shed, and it was probably not found in fresh water. If you can try to get a small specimen any part of the animal would do and simple DNA testing could tell you if it is either one of these 2 species, which any marine research lab could perform. If what they are saying is correct then there are more of them right...

Pretty cool though! I would love to see one, more pics of them, or a sample of a dead one!

Dr. T



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Whao that things alive!
let this be a lesson folks!I would have to say if it wasn't for that fact its moving around I would be thinking it was a hollywood prop for the movie ALIENS eheh. C'mon admit you guys would be calling hoax as sure as the popes catholic!That thing is dead on a juvenile xeno from those flicks.Freaky stuff man I hope we don't hear of someones chest exploded next and one of these puppies stick'n his nasty lil head out with a shrill screeetch!All metal toof-a-mus and stuff...whew scary!



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 05:16 PM
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i've never heard anyone say i haven't a clue more authoritatively.


only kidding, that was a great post. you get a star from me.

so it really isn't something commonly known if they're telling the truth about the circumstances it was found in? whatever it is, it makes me feel itchy, horrible looking thing.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:41 PM
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Thanks! We got a bunch of horseshoe crabs a few months ago when a lot were dying at the aquarium due to fungal infections in thier shell. No one has ever responded to my posts before. Thanks again my first star!



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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Looks to me like it could be some form of Skate, perhaps a guitarfish throwoff. The video seems to depict it primarily upside-down. Excellent find! I realize that this was found in freshwater, but wanted to relay some of my own seawater experiences. Here, we go after lobsters (in season) at night, when they're out foraging/scavenging. I have seen some pretty weird things that I haven't been able to find in the four "Carribean creatures" books. Strange, jerking, gyrating things. Ask the locals "what the H*lll IS that???" The answer is always the same. "We don't eat him." Gee, ya think???



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Maybe as all the frozen tundra is melting these things are coming out of being snap frozen thousands of years ago! We could see some very interesting life forms emerge as this melt continues, and would explain why they found in fresh water.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 09:26 PM
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its a freaking FACE HUGGER!!!


RUNNNNNN!


seriously though... I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing larger and larger creatures near radioactive waste sites. (and places where we've unbeknowingly let radioactive waste leak to)

not to say that was near Chernobyl.. Russia's a damn big place.

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posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:14 AM
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Well, I don't think I can say what it is really, but I can say there have been others. The story in this link claim it to be 5 feet long but I think about 1-1 1/2 feet would be an ok estimate. yay for gross looking animals!



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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Bingo. You are correct.

I find it very cool that these exist in such numbers!
Kind of opens the mind to what else is out there that we currently have been led to believe is extinct.

Excellent! I want one too!



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