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My family was robbed President Bush

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posted on May, 29 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by gauncents
reply to post by Alxandro
 


I aint just bitching about driving.

Everything we buy is relative to the price of gas.

A bottle of water costs more. But is water a right or a priviledge?


"Well, there you go again." --Uncle Ron

See what I mean?
.. why are you buying bottled water when you should be drinking tap?

Don't worry, when Ubama becomes Pres, everything will be free.




posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro

See what I mean?
.. why are you buying bottled water when you should be drinking tap?



That was what I was looking for. I did not state that I buy bottled water.

You see that is the problem here. I am merely looking for a consensus. Most people say live within their means!

I say the government should live within their means! It's easy for our elected officials to sugar coat things when their salary is so high that what ever economic situation we are in will not effect them.

Have them make the same decisions on the salary of the U.S. national average income.

I'm sure things would get fixed a whole lot quicker than they are right now.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by goose
Right now gas in Britain is selling for over 9.00 a gallon, if gas prices keep going up here in the states I don't know what we will do. As for the person living on 200.00 a week you can't seriously think that the price of gas is not going to cost you on everything you buy and eventually alter your life style.

Bush's leadership has brought us to this point and most people are not happy.

[edit on 29-5-2008 by goose]


Please cite one specific action taken by Bush that has affected the price of gas, and estimate how much this affect has been in price/gallon.

Then do the same with the regulations that have prevented oil companies from expanding the supply of oil and gasoline.



The war would be a specific action that can atributed to this administration and it's safe to say that a large part of the gas increases can be attributed to this.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by jamie83
Here's a suggestion that might help.

Instead of whining about being a victim, try this.

Focus your life on adding massive value to other people. If you do this consistently on a daily basis instead of looking for what you have a "right" to or who victimized you, everything will work out.


Here we have the "is the glass have empty or half full" scenario. And "gee, your the best" and "boy, you can do it" and my favorite "fake it until you make it"

Yes positive mental attitude or P.M.A. are very important. I think pretty much most people I talk to are tired of the "Tony Robbins" infommercial and are ready to change the channel.



[edit on 29-5-2008 by gauncents]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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President Bush has something to do with the high gas prices - either a little or a lot depending on which economists you listen to.

You cannot blame him entirely, but some of his energy policy decisions and that little thing called the Iraq War have driven the price of crude oil up.

For the above poster regarding the New Deal extending the Depression - The Cole-Ohanian model is a minority view among economists. Their model looks at the Great Depression from a distinctly modern lens, ignoring several of the factors (such as Hoover's horrible economic policy) and shifting the blame where it does not necessarily belong.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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As far as bottled water goes, many people drink bottled water to avoid the flouride that we are being forced to drink in our tap water.

No dental care for poor people but they sure will provide us with plenty of flouride!!!



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:38 PM
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I sincerely abhor the phrase "live within your means".

Why?

Because to live within my means is to have to make a choice between putting food in my house or paying for auto insurance. To live within my means is to have to make a choice between putting gas in my car or buy personal hygiene supplies.

I do not have a phone. I do not have cable. I use the computer at my b/f's mother's house. I do not own a tv. I do not own a computer.

I get roughly 583.00 every two weeks (start subtracting 45.00 every two weeks starting next week for medical and vision insurance). My rent, with gas bill included, is normally around 425.00 a month ( I live in the ghetto. Cannot afford anything not in a crime ridden area of town ). After rent and gas bill.. I have to pay electric. Then gas in my car and auto insurance. Then money for my kids. Then cigarettes (haven't quit yet, but at this rate, that is the next thing to go). Then food. Ok.. so to break this down. 425 + 25 + 200 + 45 + 200 + 40. That is 935 a month right there. As it stands right now, that leaves me, roughly 221 a month for food. Not bad but not the best either. Keep in mind, that 221 has to include toilet paper, cleaning supplies, washing my clothes, food and personal hygiene products. Now it is not looking so well is it? Now subtract 90 from that 221 .. that is what I will start losing on June 1st to go for my medical and vision insurance. That is 131 a month to buy food and other necessities of life.

If not for my boyfriend, I would have sunk a long time ago. He helps me out when he can but trust and believe.. we are sinking.

So I do not want to hear ANYONE tell me to live within my means. I am living within the means of what I can and I am barely living as a human being any more.

NO human should have to choose between food and car insurance. No human should have to choose between food and gas in the car to get to work to make the money to buy the food.

Do I blame Bush? Yes.. and his whole congress.

VV



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by goose\

The war would be a specific action that can atributed to this administration and it's safe to say that a large part of the gas increases can be attributed to this.


No, it's not safe to say this at all. Deny ignorance.

The latest estimate I read is that Iraq is producing about 1.5 million barrels a day less oil than before the war. This amounts to no more than about 3% of the overall global production.

Also note that the price of gas didn't begin to rise exponentially until very recently.

However, the DEMAND for oil is what has risen so fast that supply can't keep up. This is what has caused the price of oil to go up so quickly, along with the drop in the dollar. The drop in the dollar has almost zero to do with anything the POTUS can control.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by goose\

The war would be a specific action that can atributed to this administration and it's safe to say that a large part of the gas increases can be attributed to this.


No, it's not safe to say this at all. Deny ignorance.

The latest estimate I read is that Iraq is producing about 1.5 million barrels a day less oil than before the war. This amounts to no more than about 3% of the overall global production.

Also note that the price of gas didn't begin to rise exponentially until very recently.

However, the DEMAND for oil is what has risen so fast that supply can't keep up. This is what has caused the price of oil to go up so quickly, along with the drop in the dollar. The drop in the dollar has almost zero to do with anything the POTUS can control.


Actually, the economist who advises the World Bank and UNIDO has voiced his opinion that the Iraq War increased global energy costs by 6 trillion dollars.

Bush's neoconservattive foreign policy - Shoot first, ask questions later - has led the global energy market into a snafu that could easily have been avoided.

www.alternet.org...



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by gauncents
What would you do if you and your family were robbed in the middle of the night and you caught the rat bastard before he got away?


This is the funny part about the human Psychology.

Most of the people here that are "offering" me advice thinks it's deemed as a positive and that I am negative and to stop my bitching. I think it's the other way around. It's you bitching at me to accept what's happening around me and continue to be a slave and live in bondage.

I offer this huge scenario whether it be true or false, nobody here has focused on the question at hand in which I have copied from my original post. I am not sure whether I even wanted an answer to that question. I just new it wouldn't be addressed.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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Gauncents - here is my answer.

I would kill the bastard. Plain and simple. No thought about it.. just pull the gun, aim for the head and shoot. Probably fire the gun several times just to be sure.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by ValhallasValkyrie
reply to post by gauncents
 


Gauncents - here is my answer.

I would kill the bastard. Plain and simple. No thought about it.. just pull the gun, aim for the head and shoot. Probably fire the gun several times just to be sure.


Thank you! Someone finally said it! Thank you! Star for you.

I think when this bastard is out of office, if he lives that long, will have to go into hidding. Protective custody if you will. That is probably why he bought land in Northern Paraguay.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:22 PM
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Hell, I am considering moving down to the border of Brazil and Peru to live with the amazon lost tribe >.>

Looks like a rather peaceful life to me..

Might have to get over my extreme fear of spiders before I go though.....



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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It is also driving me crazy, even though I am a fan, watching nascar do it's thing.

Using oil for sport these days is rather insulting. Big corporations putting their brand on a car showing support with the money they get from us actually showing us on television that they are flushing our money down the toilet.

If many of you didn't look at this link, please do. Notice the prices when Bush takes office early 2001, and when he declares war on Iraq in early 2003.
www.eia.doe.gov...


[edit on 29-5-2008 by gauncents]



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 09:40 PM
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Because not everyone who is unemployed is actually on the unemployment rolls. Walk the streets, and see how many homeless there are. Unemployment doesn't take into account those who are working, but still can't make ends meet even after tightening their belts as far as they could go.

It doesn't take into consideration on how many well paying jobs that have been transported overseas. Those people went from making more than a living wage to having to get a minimum wage job or two, and still can't make what they use to earn. They can't get the jobs that pay more, because they are long gone taken by someone else.

This happened to the steel mills, factories, many good IT jobs, and hit call centers big time. Now the next industry to possibly get hit big time is the trucking industry. Not from outsourcing, but from insourcing. The government is letting the Mexican carriers come up into the US to act like US carriers. There is a big struggle to stop the government and dot from doing so. No job is safe.

Next thing you know, companies will get the bright idea to replace US minimum wage workers by bringing in foreign workers on work visa's that would allow them to pay the foreign less than minimum wage. There goes all your hamburger flipping jobs.

Besides the US citizens didn't really want to do "those" jobs either, so we had to bring in foreign workers because someone wanted to do the job.

Yes that may be an extraction, but I wouldn't put it past some higher up to think of it though.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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I've hired three homeless people in the last year and offered a job to the guy that stands and panhandles in front of my office. Two quit in one day and one made it two days. He showed up drunk a dozen times after, threatening me until I made it clear I would have him arrested.

I run ads constantly for an entry level position that pays over $2,000.00 a month with no experience needed. Nobody ever replies and the ones that do never show up for interview. I ran an ad at the University and got three responses all asking for front office jobs without even having finished a year at school.

I've prospered under Bush but I understand others have not. To get here I and my Wife worked 80 hours a week each at less than minimum wage for years, but we never gave up. My lowest paid person made more than $30,000 last year. I hear them all the time talking about how I don't deserve the money I earn. I just laugh knowing the sacrifice I made so I no longer have to rely on others.

I too don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't want to kill him. Why are you on a fishing expedition to get people to say they do? Is this a trap?



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I too don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't want to kill him. Why are you on a fishing expedition to get people to say they do? Is this a trap?


Sounds like you and your family worked hard to get where you're at. I'm glad to see that's not a lost art in the US, but it seems that way.

And I have to agree, this does seem a little like "fishing" for a certain response. Nothing like talking about assassination of a man.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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I think you have a biased ill-informed opinion OP.

I would also like to point out, if it werent for all the tree hugging liberals, we could drill in alaska and be pretty much energy independent by 2015-2020.

Also, a weaker dollar is partial to blame, as well as Chinas emergence etc.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
My lowest paid person made more than $30,000 last year. I hear them all the time talking about how I don't deserve the money I earn. I just laugh knowing the sacrifice I made so I no longer have to rely on others.

I too don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't want to kill him. Why are you on a fishing expedition to get people to say they do? Is this a trap?


It's good you realize that nothing lasts forever. Just remember that if you ever fail how many people will be laughing at you. You sound so humble! OH such a big man you are by outsourcing homeless people that show up drunk. Maybe if I gave you a piece of gum you would show me how to chew it. Just remember your company is only as strong as your weekest link. And that we tend to turn into the people we surround ourselves with the most.

No I am not talking about an assassination. This is not a trap. Since you are a company man, if one of your vendors raised the price on goods every single day. How long would it take you to look for another vendor then in turn to find that their is no other vendor with that product. How long would it be before you snapped? Get real. It happens all the time. Whether it be a loving father and husband that just got fired due to cutbacks after already scrambling to put food on the table and has had enough and snaps. Some of you aren't really looking into what I mean. Just the words that are typed.



posted on May, 29 2008 @ 11:32 PM
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I think you are full of ifs, woulds, and coulds. I'm standing strong on an opinion.



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