Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by phinubian
The intel at the time of the vote for the Iraqi war was enough to substantiate the invasion.
Let's be intellectually honest about this and say WMDs were crap from the moment they were frist mentioned. I supported the invasion and I thought
WMDs were a waste of time. There was enough justification without them.
You can't blame Hillary for voting for the war based on the intel at the time,
see above. But, this
because we NOW all know the intel was fabricated.
is true.
Obama has voted to continue to fund the war, now that he is in the senate, so he is just as guilty as Hillary in supporting the Iraqi
war.
That tends to be a "devil and the deep blue sea", "rock and a hard place", "damned if you do..." situation. BUT, Obama is being intellectually
dishonest to claim opposition to the war while funding its continuation.
As far as Hillary's statement about arriving under sniper fire,
My biggest problem with Hillary. I know I've remembered things vivdly differently to how they happened, but I expect a leader with the power of POTUS
not to have such an, shall we say, excitable imagination. However,
How is this worse than Obama's claim that his uncle "was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the
concentration camps".
It isn't. Or is it. I'm not going to defend Hillary and bash Obama, I'm intellectually highly uncomfortable with her repeated use of the sniper
fire statement (and Chelsea tacitly supporting it after quietly, but effectively coming out against the "iron my clothes" jerk and the press'
failure to give it due coverage compared with a hypothetical, say, "pick my cotton" or "shine my shoes", eg, being shouted Obama's way), but
Obama is being more than intellectually dishonest to spread this crap. Obama CLAIMS to be an educated man. How educated do you have to be to know
Auschwitz was in Poland? How young do you have to be NOT to know Poland was a communist country during the Cold War? How hard is it to put two and two
together and come up with "The Russians "liberated" Poland"? How hard is it for an "educated" man not to know that the Western Allies and the
Russians met at the Elbe River? In Germany? AFTER the Red Army surrounded Berlin, the German capital? And therefore no American forces, black or
otherwise, liberated even one square inch of Polish soil? (and Barack, if you don't know this, America doesn't need you as President).
I would say he is equally culpable as Hillary and
Add to this Obama's claims he didn't know about Wrights racists statements,
any such claims are, in my headspace, met with incredulity equal to that of McLellan hearing W declare no positive memory of cocaine use.
