How Long Do You think We Have?, page 5

that is chilling and nothing i and probably many others haven't thought of and considered before. it's almost blantantly obvious in the way the government can outright lie to us and people just refuse to see and how media, which is becoming more pervasive by the second, an spin us backwards, forwards, and any which way they want, and how few even bother to discuss or even think about that and its ramifications.

reply posted on 27-6-2008 @ 08:08 AM by crgintx

reply to post by DeusEx

What killed some many folks after the slow collapse of the Roman Empire was a 400 year cooling of the Earth's climate not the actual collapse of the Roman Empire. Most folks back then were very glad to have the Romans off their neck,

Everyone blames the war in Iraq for the weakened dollar, how about a century of foreign military adventurism in the name of corporate greed? How about covert military spending to the tune of $2+ trillion over the last 50 years? That's larger than the federal deficit. That's money down one fat rabbit's hole that we'll never see again. Perhaps a small depression is exactly what the US needs to kick out the chickenhawk NeoCons or NeoLibs who prefer to poke their nose if other folk's trouble while letting the country's infrastructure fall to pieces. Or ignores the burgeoning revolution in Mexico?

reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 07:47 PM by sad_eyed_lady

reply to post by LLoyd45

I got this email today. Read it and the answer to your question becomes painfully obvious. Not long.

HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. from dependence back into bondage'

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