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reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 08:14 AM by Ecidemon
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
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"It was a huge explosion, and we thought at first that it was thunder," Truyen said. "But then we saw a 100-metre-long smoke trail in the sky and knew that it was the explosion of a flying object."


Quoted directly from the link.

Read. It's not difficult to understand.

Touche. At no point do they say "it made no noise at all" until they were referring to events prior to the explosion. I thought that much was obvious, and didn't see anything that anyone should be confused about. Read. It's really simple to comprehend.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 10:21 AM by authors
Originally posted by Mad Larkin
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
The poster of this theory noted that the launch time for the rocket was about the same as the reported time of the crash/explosion. The debris field is more than 3,000 km south of the launch site. While a rocket should be able to cover that kind of distance in a few minutes, shouldn't it be going up rather than sideways?


Rockets level out in the lower atmosphere I think.

Take the Earth's rotation into account. Also, the debris could have been effected by wind.

What I don't get is if it was a rocket you'd expect the debris to be flung over a very large area, few and far between rather than 3 big lumps (as the picture shows) landing in a small area.

[edit on 5/29/2008 by Mad Larkin]



Crash site pretty much due south of rocket launch site, so hard to see where the Earth's rotation comes into play. No abnormal weather events in the relevant area at the time, so wind unlikely to be the reason that chunks of metal moved three thousand kilometers in a few minutes. The photos available online are clearly not representative of the debris field as a whole; they're just a couple of snaps from stuff brought to one particular police station in Cambodia, and media reporting makes it clear that there were many more pieces found throughout a much wider area encompassing Vietnamese territory also.

Wouldn't discount the rocket theory for a second, and the fact that a launch like this occurred in the same region around the same time.... well, if it's not responsible then it's quite a coincidence. Nonetheless, seems strange that the booster should have come down where and when it did... unless something went very wrong with the launch...



reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 10:54 AM by Ecidemon
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Not saying it isn't a rocket or anything, but wouldn't a rocket leave a trail of smoke right up to the explosion? I don't recall them mentioning any kind of contrail or anything left behind. That, of course, doesn't mean tehre wasn't one.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 03:02 PM by Mad Larkin
I was running with the rocket theory because it seems pretty logical that you can connect a rocket launch with debris falling to Earth in a reletively close location.

However, that isn't conclusive proof that whatever exploded was a rocket and there are some anomalies with the story like the trail of smoke, the silence before the explosion, etc etc.

Originally posted by authors
Originally posted by Mad Larkin
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
The poster of this theory noted that the launch time for the rocket was about the same as the reported time of the crash/explosion. The debris field is more than 3,000 km south of the launch site. While a rocket should be able to cover that kind of distance in a few minutes, shouldn't it be going up rather than sideways?


Rockets level out in the lower atmosphere I think.

Take the Earth's rotation into account. Also, the debris could have been effected by wind.

What I don't get is if it was a rocket you'd expect the debris to be flung over a very large area, few and far between rather than 3 big lumps (as the picture shows) landing in a small area.

[edit on 5/29/2008 by Mad Larkin]



Crash site pretty much due south of rocket launch site, so hard to see where the Earth's rotation comes into play. No abnormal weather events in the relevant area at the time, so wind unlikely to be the reason that chunks of metal moved three thousand kilometers in a few minutes. The photos available online are clearly not representative of the debris field as a whole; they're just a couple of snaps from stuff brought to one particular police station in Cambodia, and media reporting makes it clear that there were many more pieces found throughout a much wider area encompassing Vietnamese territory also.

Wouldn't discount the rocket theory for a second, and the fact that a launch like this occurred in the same region around the same time.... well, if it's not responsible then it's quite a coincidence. Nonetheless, seems strange that the booster should have come down where and when it did... unless something went very wrong with the launch...


Sorry I must admit I didn't read the whole report and I wasn't aware of where the debris fell in relation to the rocket launch. However, if debris had been caught in a jet-stream (high altitude air currents of up to 400kph) it's logical to assume it could have been carried a great distance. I dunno, I'm just throwing out ideas to see if I can spark peoples imagination and help them come up with theorys.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 03:08 PM by unknownfrost
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I do believe that would make sense. In fact, that's the first thing I thought of!

Man...stuff now-a-days really makes you think, huh?


reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 07:10 AM by Mad Larkin
Originally posted by authors
If a rocket booster, this suggests that it hadn't broken up yet, and the subsequent explosion reports suggest that when it went, it was quite the event. I dunno much about jet streams; could they have carried the whole thing so far south so quickly and intact?

By the way there are some new (and better) photos available here:

search.news.yahoo.com...

Surely someone must be able to identify this thing?


I'm not sure about how far a jet stream would carry some debris but I know weather baloons can be carried many thousands of kilometres in them. It's safe to assume that the debris could have been carried quite a way before gravity pulled it out of the jet stream.

Thanks for the new pics btw.

Originally posted by Grayarea
First off I would just like to say hi ! I'm new here so don't hurt me, I break easy

I think what is shown in the yahoo photos looks more like a man made missle body of some kind. Why I say this is because in one photo that looks to be the back or inside of the larger structural parts you can clearly see nuts and bolts (these bolts are commonly know as carrige bolts). These are bolted to what is called a structural "Tee" or "T" which is made from an "I" beam (known as a "W" shape in a steel handbook).

Now if you take the large structural chunk and roll it so that forms half of a long cylynder and cover it with sheet metal you have part of a missle. The two brackets on the side would be good for mounting guidance fins. Bet they find another chunk to complete the body.

Did someone drop something by mistake and detonate it before it hit the ground ? No noise from a bomb until it blows up.....

[edit on 30-5-2008 by Grayarea]


Welcome to ATS And thanks for there great info there. I'm going to start looking at the wreckage of known plane and missile crashes and see if I can find anything similar to our debris. I'll let you know how it goes.

Peace.
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