The Americanisation of Australia, page 3
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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 03:14 PM by Enthralled Fan
reply to post by VIKINGANT



Well, I have to say after reading this thread, which I enjoyed, I have to agree with what Jackinthebox had to say.

I have had the opportunity to live all over America, from way up north by Canada, middle America, the west coast, and now I am located in the deep south.

While it might seem to you in Austrailia that Americans are all alike, I can tell you that there are vast differences in the population just within our own country!

I've seen it for myself, so if you are worried about the Americanisation of Australia, I'm not convinced it has even happened within our own country.

This is just a small planet, and I do believe we influence each other quite a bit, but everyone knows who they are!


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 04:48 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Sublime620



Does not seem like the best country to follow to be honest.
Here are some statistics to glance trough if you have some spare time:
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If you browse the page you will of course find many good things about the U.S.A to. I just wanted to show that some things are not that great to give some perspective on the "Worlds best country/be like us" comments.
Around the world today there are leaders that worship profit more then the value of dignity, honesty and even human life. These things are now measured "in gold". Nothing wrong with profit but when you value it more then the life/happiness of your fellow man something is very wrong in todays world.


Bob said it best:"I don't want to see you suffer, only want to see you prosper"

We can and should do better!



reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 05:30 PM by dragonfire2159
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



I have to agree with the fact that most Americans don't know their own history. Sure we learn about Washington, the Civil War, etc. I'm from Hawai`i, born and raised. I attended college on the "mainland" or continental United States. I would get into arguments with peers about Hawai`i, because I would talk about how harshly America treated us before we became a state and afterward. The argument would continue, until some students said something along the lines of "Then you shouldn't have become a state." I've linked the U.S. Governments version of what happened.

www.state.gov...

Basically we were illegaly annexed by sugar plantation owners, because they didn't want to pay tariffs on the sugar they grew here and exported. They overthrew the monarchy, with U.S. aid by pointing the USS Boston at `Iolani Palace, rather than risk killing followers, the monarchy opted for a peaceful resolution. Grover Clevland even recognized this as a wrongful take over, but didn't do anything to ammend the actions. Your average American has no idea this happened, and by 1959 we were a state. The government also outlawed speaking Hawaiian and dancing Hula in the 1900's while Dole, a plantation owner, later became Governor.

I think Aussies and Hawai`ians have a lot in common. Or maybe it's just because I like "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport".

P.S.: Nationalism/Religion/Ethnicity are pointless. I am Hawai`ian, Japanese, Okinawan, Irish, Puerto Rican, and Spanish. I was raised Roman Catholic, went to a Protestant school, and identify more with Eastern Philosophy. I say lets just combine everything into what we call in Hawai`i a "mixed plate", take the good get rid of the rest. The labels just divide us. Peace out.


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 06:10 PM by Enthralled Fan
reply to post by LAUGHING-CAT



When I lived in Phoenix, I went to Nogales in search of furiiture. Solid wood furniture, which is hard to find in the states, unless you are a bazzionaire.

There is a planned obsolecsesne in Amreica. Everything breaks down, or is made of crap, plastered together crap. Needs to be replaced every few years or so.

I didn't find that in Mexico.

I have purchased things in Mexico that will last foreveranywhrere..Nogales to be exact.

Why can't people in the US produce such lovely goods, without a planned obsolesence with them?

Exploitation comes to mind.

All you people that have gripe about illegal artisans and care givers from Mexico, would never exist without them.

edit for finger farts..........LOL I am bad today. Sorry arthritis is bad!




[edit on 28-5-2008 by Enthralled Fan]


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 06:53 PM by LAUGHING-CAT
reply to post by Enthralled Fan

Maybe you misunderstood.
Naugles is a restaurant chain I would frequent when I lived in SoCal.

I wasn't bashing the Mexican city of Nogales

[edit on 5/28/2008 by LAUGHING-CAT]


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 07:10 PM by BlackViolet
reply to post by Creedo



Yeah mate,We are Convicts-and proud of it

Australia-The best of British...

We have a mindset that is in a lot of ways rebellious to authority,
And we have this little thing called "Tall Poppy Syndrome",where we
love to see the go getters rise to the top of the pile and then we love to tear them down again.

As for Americanisation,well,I see a lot of the street culture here,Bling Bling and "Yo Dude",but its not too bad.

Myself,I love America and Americans,I have some lovely friends there and
spent three weeks there last year,Most awesome time...Dude...

What i do not like is the current administration(Nor mine) and what hurts most is not the fact that some of the things a wrong of their own accord but that at some point that it will hurt you and us and others and i don't want that,
As far as i am concerned i don't want to see anyone hurt and now that i have been there and experienced it you are all in my heart and i want the best for all of us.

God bless

BV


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 07:13 PM by abelievingskeptic
reply to post by jackinthebox



wow..dope video.

your musical preference fits within your image there jack..

I would have been a little suprised if you posted some video with jay z flashin euros or somethin...


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 07:26 PM by Nerva
Just to throw my 2 cents in....

I have lived in America all my life but have never considered myself an "American", at least not for what it has now come to mean.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not Anti-American, or any other type of person commonly associated with hating all Americans, all things American, or America as a whole. The thing is, is what our governing bodies do in this country absolutely do not represent the opinions or views of every individual in America.

Just as it is unfair to group any race, creed, sex, or nationality into one classification. And everyone hear knows exactly what I mean.

Back to the subject of the thread...

Three people that I value very highly in my life were born and live in Australia.
I have never met these people face to face. Doesn't matter. They have helped me evolve my understanding of many things... and awakened me to this growing problem years ago. Years ago they urged me to get out of the US.

But now I fear it's only a matter of time before there is little left of Australia and it's culture, due to being forced, pressured, or obligated to Americanize or follow in our foot steps.

I know exactly what the OP is saying and the American government, and TPTB are doing this slowly to the entire world and its just plain wrong. Like the American food companies showing up in Iraq.

Rammstein hit the nail on the head with that song. Look up the translation to fully understand.

I have always wanted to move to Australia because as whole, it seems Aussie's have their act together more than America (in its current state) could ever hope to. There philosophy on life has helped me also.

It is a shame that people in your country are letting this happen(to some extent). Just sad.

Even though I shouldn't feel responsible to apologize for" the all powerful idiots" in this country. I am sorry you are seeing this happen.


reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 07:43 PM by TAM60
GDay from Western Australia, Very interesting topic so I thought I'd put my two cents worth in the mix. Here in WA the houses are predominately double brick with an air cavity. I think we went this way because our state is mostly desert with very hot weather and recently (Last 15 years) very high UV radiation. Just ask any primary schooler in OZ about UV and protection and they'll give you a very detailed and informed reply. As for American media? well even you guys in the States laugh at it. Now there's a common feeling between you and us. Another thing comes to mind, I believe that the USA & OZ will always be friends beceause we both have the same basic beliefs in a fair go for every one. The conversations with Americans that I've had always highlights the similarities between us rather than the differences. As for our languageeroding and becoming Americanised, just have a drink and a chat with an Aussie any where in the world and by the third drink the Aussie's will start to speak faster and will have reverted to our Australian Slang which if your not used to it will be hard to follow eg better hit the frog and toad or give the misses a call on the Dog & Bone. Other Aussie's. can translate that if you don't get it. Look before I go just a thought, embrace our similarities but retain our heritage's as friendship knows no cultural or geographical boundaries and the only ones who want us to bicker and fght are the very ones we discuss here on ATS.
OO-ROO from OZ
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