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reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 01:05 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by kdial1


Sorry the Executive Orders you present as evidence of a NWO conspiracy are all from the Cold War and were meant to ensure continuity of government after nuclear attack by the Soviets. For instance the latest of the EOs you quote were signed in 1976 by Gerald Ford.

I am not saying that old EOs can't be used for purposes other than intended, but the evidential link is pretty weak.


reply posted on 31-5-2008 @ 03:16 PM by ShatteredSkies
reply to post by Trayen11


People really don't understand how things work do they? Bush has no popularity, at all in this country. Every media source openly talks smack about Bush, everyone discredits him, no one likes him. Even the people with no reason not to like him don't like him.

He's going to go ahead initialize a preemptive strike and declare Martial Law over it? Yeah, recipe for assassination is what is. To be quite honest, if a preemptive strike comes down on Iran, it'll be with a new administration.

Now we can sit here and talk about how all the things we want Bush to do so we'd be angrier at him, but at the end of the day, it's just us being cynical.

I'll apologize for this post when, and only when the US becomes a Dictatorship and Bush stays in permanent power.

Shattered OUT...


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 01:10 PM by kdial1
maybe you should read these:

www.whitehouse.gov...

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS



Sorry the Executive Orders you present as evidence of a NWO conspiracy are all from the Cold War and were meant to ensure continuity of government after nuclear attack by the Soviets. For instance the latest of the EOs you quote were signed in 1976 by Gerald Ford.

I am not saying that old EOs can't be used for purposes other than intended, but the evidential link is pretty weak.


[edit on 4-6-2008 by kdial1]


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 01:20 PM by gottago
reply to post by ShatteredSkies


How does the song go? "When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose."

W's popularity (or history-breaking lack of it) has very little to do with his motives, and never has.


reply posted on 10-6-2008 @ 08:38 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by CreeWolf


Money is violence.

Actually it's globalist fractional reserve central bankers who want what we all have, then fund propaganda campaigns to anger people in various countries against others.
They profit from loaning (printing) money for the combatants who they goad into war.
They own and control the major media. They create news, and the items that go in it.
Central banks all of which work on a fractional reserve system, create economic conditions in tandem with the industrial robber barons they serve as the major loan source for.
Central banks also fund economic collapses and cause depressions and commodities shortages by restricting the flow of money, in tandem with officials in charge of energy laws, farm legislation and programs, international trade legislation.
These are additional stresses they put on global economies to create additional assured potential for profit, on top of the main one they have always built in to money itself. The Treasury Secretary in an incarnation of the central bank during the administration of Andrew Jackson, actually created a depression, as the current one did during Herbert Hoover's. In the latter case restricted the currency, forcing investment houses to call in their margin accounts with which people buy stock on credit, when people began selling off bubble inflated stock, and so needing to be paid.
The Fed had just before created excessive cash flow, to fuel the fake market boom.
In the case of Andrew Jackson, they attempted to kill him 3 times. His tombstone reads "I killed the bank". He returned the favor.

They create money as pure debt. They hold little if any gold or cash reserves, and lend out brand new money created out of nothing, to many times the reserves they actually hold. Central banks print (loan) this money they create from nothing to governments and banks in their system at interest (e.g. the Federal Reserve's prime rate). This is called a fractional reserve system of banking, because the bank hold only a tiny fraction of the assets it loans out, because it knows it's depositors never come all at once to collect their cash or gold, nor show up to do an audit. Congress has never been permitted to audit the gold reserves of the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve's branches' boards are populated by a majority of officers from banks which they create policy for. The Federal Reserve is not owned or operated by the US government. It is essentially controlled by 12 member banks who hold it's stock, and is not required by Congress to list the stock holders.

Central Banks and banks working in thier systems loan out new money created from nothing in excess of 1000 times their actual holdings. Banks no longer advertise their holdings. If depositors show up to be paid at enough banks holding cash reserves loaned out from this system, there would be nowhere near enough money to pay depositors their cash. They money is only promised to be worth something, as deemed good for all debts public and private.

Gold is also sold or loaned out at interest by central banks. Recently central banks sold the gold they already loaned out at interest presumably to the borrowers. Less gold in reserve. If the US government were to demand it's gold reserves be transferred to a bank controlled by Congress, there would likely be nowhere near enough gold on deposit to provide the government's gold. It was one the people's gold until US citizens were forced by legislation signed by Roosevelt, to sell it to the Federal Reserve at a set price. Foreign gold was paid at a significantly higher rate. Members of the Firestone company removed their gold to England, and then re-imported it for the higher rate. They were busted, and minimally fined. Those who refused to turn in their gold to the private Federal Reserve on the orders of their government, risked confiscation and arre


reply posted on 16-8-2008 @ 06:36 PM by carolina1737
Of course the US is going to attack Iran! Maybe his month!! That is why oil prices are going down, because if they attack Iran oil will go up to 175 or more!! The people controlling oil really don't want to completely stop the American consumer with an even bigger price spike when the attack drives oil up a certain percentage. They are artificially deflating the price of oil to send it right back up where it used to be. Also the American economy if on the verge of collapse. The only ace America has left is their massive military might. The only way to forgive our debts and keep the elite in power in America is to completely put the world into chaos and either beat them into submission or to save them from some other foe(ie The Russian's and/or the Chinese). Its all about the American elite keeping the cow in the barn instead of having to give it away. Simultaneously I think the Russians and Chinese want what the Americans have. Isn't that how its been throughout the centuries. One tribe wants what the other has and goes over and attacks the other tribe. How we are so similar to our forefathers when we profess to be so different.

Russia pulled back in Georgia because the timing is all wrong. I think they have something else in mind. They want all of their allies to strike many targets around the world at once. Why? Because the US couldn't effectively coordinate all the attacks at once.The US was trying to goad Russia into attacking on their own. The old divide and conquer philosophy. Yes the Russians had to answer because the Georgians were attacking allies, and could have put them at a slightly larger disadvantage when everything goes down.. The US is planning this Iran thing right in the middle of the Olympics so the Chinese can't respond. The Russians pulled back and dug in because they would stand a better chance in the upcoming possible WWIII thing touched off by Iran if they are just on the edge of takeover and can just wait until their allies can respond. I would be like any one of us attacking a football team. Even if we were Chuck Norris himself we'd get our ass kicked.
The US fleet isn't completely "on station" yet off Iran so we have at least the long or maybe until the end of the Olympics before WWIII starts, but nobody can predict the future unless they are the ones about to make it.
It's so sad I don't have the money to finish building my shelter.
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