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Military: Your Opinion

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posted on Jun, 3 2008 @ 07:16 PM
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Louiekid333 in this case NCO stands for Non Commissioned Officer . NCO enlist in there country's military and act as a link between officers and other enlisted personal .

Cheers xpert11.




posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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What exactly is the difference between officers and personel?



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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If I may chime in with I hope to be your answer.

Speaking from army experience (although it's been about 20 years ago for me). Enlisted are the basic troops, Privates, Specialists, Sergeant, etc.

Officers however need 4 years of college and undergo special training in such things as command, some tactics, etc. Their position pays better but there is a lot more responsibility as well. These are the guys that you would be required to salute.

Like anyplace there are good troops and officers and bad. A smart officer will give an order to the sergeant about what needs to be done and step back and let them do the task and not micromanage things.

Military ranks

I hope that this is of some help.



posted on Jun, 4 2008 @ 06:44 PM
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Sadly, you're not going to get your questions answered here adequately for you to make a rational decision.

If you aren't willing to die in the service of your country, forget it. There is not a branch of the service that does not involve risk. Some occupational specialties are more risky than others, but any US service member is a target by that very fact, at home or abroad.

They don't call it service for nothing. You will work hard for very little money and you might wind up dead or worse.

But, if you understand that freedom is not free and every single freedom that you enjoy was paid for with the blood of those who have gone before and you want give something back to insure that those who come after you will also be free, then the military offers an experience and intangible benefits no other job can.

You may find out very early that the military is no longer on your list of desirable careers, but you will still be obligated to serve your term, unless you are found to be unfit. Even then, there are advantages to meeting the challenges and sticking it out. Even when the going is rough there is still the camaraderie and the satisfaction of overcoming hardship.

I think the most common realization among those who serve a term and who finding that they were dissatisfied with their service and getting out is how beneficial that service turns out to be in the crystal clear light of hindsight. I think this is probably more true of Marines than any other service.

Only you, through the proper research can decide which branch of the service you're willing to gamble on and it is a gamble. There are too many variables in any choice to know in advance how things will work out and how satisfied you will be. But, you can control for some of those variables and with hard work and diligence you can even affect those variables.

If you choose to join the Marine Corps, I can't promise you that you will be happy with your choice, but I can with reasonable certainty guarantee you that if you survive, you will never regret the choice regardless of the hardships or the sacrifices. In the long term, you will come to the realization that no matter the pain or sacrifice you suffered to earn the title, it will be small in comparison to the pride you will carry for the rest of your days.

[edit on 2008/6/4 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Jun, 5 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Yeah, I realized that I wan't going to be able to make a complete decision from simply the information I saw here. I just wanted to see what people thought so that I could sort of narrow my choices...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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Interesting thread! I myself am in the Naval Reserves I’m attached to the Naval Security Forces. As an “M.A.” (my rate in the Navy) I provide security to the local base, but it all depends what unit your attached to
To be honest joining the Reserves could be the best decision you could make, it’ll get your feet wet if you ever want to go “Active Duty.” I highly suggest you take this route but hey I’m somewhat biased : D Being a true citizen “sailor” is amazing plus the benefits help, being in the Reserves it’s nothing compared to our active duty counterpart but it is better than nothing! Also, keep into consideration that the Navy also has pilots and as well the Marines!

If you want to become a Pilot you will not be going in enlisted, you would be going in as an officer upon competition of graduate school or any other officer program (i.e. ROTC, Naval Academy.) I’m planning on taking my degree (which I’ll be receiving in 3 years) in computer science and be putting it to use in the Navy as a Naval Officer but I don’t know what field yet…its either Intelligence or Cryptology but I’m somewhat leaning towards Cryptology at the moment. Best wishes to whatever decision you make



Smoooooth Sailing!

Seaman Richie



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Seaman_Richie
Also, keep into consideration that the Navy also has pilots and as well the Marines!


Excuse me.

The United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps are separate branches of the service, both of which are under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Navy.

That's a very important distinction.



The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the United States armed forces responsible for providing force projection from the sea,[2] using the mobility of the U.S. Navy to rapidly deliver combined-arms task forces and is one of seven uniformed services. Administratively within the Department of the Navy,[3][4] operationally the U.S. Marine Corps acts as a separate branch of the military, often working closely with US Naval forces for training, transportation, and logistic purposes.


en.wikipedia.org...


www.marines.mil...

www.marines.com...


The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the U.S. military responsible for providing power projection from the sea, utilizing the mobility of the U.S. Navy to rapidly deliver combined-arms task forces to global crises. Alongside the U.S. Navy, the Marine Corps operates under the United States Department of the Navy.

The Marine Corps, with 180,000 active duty and 40,000 reserve Marines as of 2005, is the smallest of the United States' armed forces in the Department of Defense.

www.marines.mil...


Google Search



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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I think alot of Americans out there are thinking like you are, i know i am...


Right now our country is in a bit of a mess, but the one thing for sure that we know is going to be around for a while, and not get starved, is the US Military.

There is something that is bigger then yourself when you serve... a sense of emotional pride, a feeling that is not made for english words... an enteral service.

Service in the US military is a privilage. It is the honour of serving with the deadliest, and most powerful military in the history of this world...

Rangers are probaly the meanest/deadlist fighting units this earth has every seen...

Im in college now, i am getting my 4-year degree, then i am going to join the airforce... but thats a bit down the road...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by Seaman_Richie
Also, keep into consideration that the Navy also has pilots and as well the Marines!


Excuse me.

The United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps are separate branches of the service, both of which are under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Navy.

That's a very important distinction.



The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the United States armed forces responsible for providing force projection from the sea,[2] using the mobility of the U.S. Navy to rapidly deliver combined-arms task forces and is one of seven uniformed services. Administratively within the Department of the Navy,[3][4] operationally the U.S. Marine Corps acts as a separate branch of the military, often working closely with US Naval forces for training, transportation, and logistic purposes.


en.wikipedia.org...


www.marines.mil...

www.marines.com...


The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the U.S. military responsible for providing power projection from the sea, utilizing the mobility of the U.S. Navy to rapidly deliver combined-arms task forces to global crises. Alongside the U.S. Navy, the Marine Corps operates under the United States Department of the Navy.

The Marine Corps, with 180,000 active duty and 40,000 reserve Marines as of 2005, is the smallest of the United States' armed forces in the Department of Defense.

www.marines.mil...


Google Search



Don't make me laugh, I'm in the Navy, don't you think I know? Hence why we joke to "them" when they ever insult us in any manner to check their pay stubs "Department Of The Navy." I don't know...that was kind of stupid to point out on your part.


Both Navy and Marines have their own pilots....perhaps I've confused you in some way?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by TKainZero
I think alot of Americans out there are thinking like you are, i know i am...


Right now our country is in a bit of a mess, but the one thing for sure that we know is going to be around for a while, and not get starved, is the US Military.

There is something that is bigger then yourself when you serve... a sense of emotional pride, a feeling that is not made for english words... an enteral service.

Service in the US military is a privilage. It is the honour of serving with the deadliest, and most powerful military in the history of this world...

Rangers are probaly the meanest/deadlist fighting units this earth has every seen...

Im in college now, i am getting my 4-year degree, then i am going to join the airforce... but thats a bit down the road...


Best of luck to you! I'm assuming you want to become an officer right? If you're looking into becoming a Fighter Pilot for sure you'll be flying a F-22 by then



Best Regards,
Richie



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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I just want you to get your facts straight, Squidly.

Don't get your tentacles in a tangle.

And don't call me stupid.

You're the one who apparently doesn't know the difference between the United States Navy and the United States Department of the Navy.

I was serving in the Marine Corps when your father was in diapers.


[edit on 2008/6/8 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by Seaman_Richie
 


I just want you to get your facts straight, Squidly.

Don't get your tentacles in a tangle.

And don't call me stupid.

You're the one who apparently doesn't know the difference between the United States Navy and the United States Department of the Navy.

I was serving in the Marine Corps when your father was in diapers.


[edit on 2008/6/8 by GradyPhilpott]


How...and gods name would I have gotten the two mixed up? I'm sorry but either you read my comment incorrectly or I simply did not word it correctly I don't know. But believe me I know the difference! I'm working on becoming a Naval officer here don't on its own should say something.

Squidly? pffft...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Seaman_Richie
I'm working on becoming a Naval officer....


Good luck.

I wish you the best.



posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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Well Im in the Air Force and so far so good, by far the best decision I have made in my life.

You can become a helicopter pilot for the Army also and you do not need to be an officer, as a matter of fact you can be recruited as enlisted and join the Army flight school right after basic training, specially now that they are in dire need of helicopter pilots, no prior flying experience required, I was going to do that but could not pass my english test, funny that my ASVAB scores were through the roof.

NAVY is actually the best branch if you want to be far from combat and want to travel around the world, something that you might think you would do more in the Air Force but in all reality in the Air Force if you are not working in a AFSC related to a flying mission, you wont flight at all unless it is to Iraq, Afghanistan and any other country that ends in -tan.

My brother is in the Coast Guard and he has had a so so time in, the thing about the Coast Guard and Navy as well, you can out the ARMY in there too is that the time you spend away from your family is considerable, granted that depends on you specialty but if family is a priority for you then you should go Air Force.

As far as enlisted or officer is concerned, go officer hands down, better pay, better treatment, better accomodations and liberties when deployed, better chances to get a good job if you decide to get out, its a win win there. If you are currently in college do ROTC, thats the best way to become an officer.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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I don't mean to sound naive, like some kid or something, but I am actually more interested in the combat areas than not. I know that whatever I do, I'd be helping my country, but I think that when I'm in combat I'll feel that even more.

I'm a senior in high school right now, and I'm not sure what I'd need to do in order to "apply" or whatever is needed to join...not that I've even made a decision yet, but when I do I would really like to know what steps to take



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by Seaman_Richie

Best of luck to you! I'm assuming you want to become an officer right? If you're looking into becoming a Fighter Pilot for sure you'll be flying a F-22 by then



I plan to go in with a degree in Physics... i want to learn the inner-diciplines of modern Warfare...


My eyesight is not Perfect... so i am not sure if i could be a fighter-pilot...

I think that once i am in, i will understand the path i need to take.



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