The World Should Be Turned Into a Giant Police State

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posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:02 AM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


Please remove Chavez from that list
In no way he is equal to any other one from there. Watch this movie about the US backed coup in Venezuela, and how he became president again after being kidnapped :

Google Video Link


If you say "he did not do anything bad but he might ! " then you are the same with the ones who want a police state : "lock people up, they might be criminals !"
Also Genghis Khan , if you include him you could include every ancient leader who started a war

[edit on 28-5-2008 by pai mei]




posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:21 AM
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I will not remove Hugo Chavez. Some deem him just as destructful as Ghengis Khan.

Others deem him the next Hitler.

Myself personally, well I've heard whispered rumors that he is a C.I.A. plant just like Saddam Hussein or Manuel Noriega were rumored as plants, stuck deep in the
and left to grow on their own.

Respect and many happy blessings to you, pai mei.

No offense meant to you.

I am as anti-kidnapping as they come.

G.I.Jane vs Rendition...Hollywood vs Reality...Training vs Torture...WATERBOARDING

I respect no other man's wishes over another's.

Power over another is only power over yourself in the longrun, as you become worse than the beast you wish to defeat in the end.


[edit on 28-5-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
This is my own personal view.

I believe we humans have gotten to a state of mind where we are completely out of control, and i believe we should be controlled.

There is too much information, too much freedom, too much violence, terror and abuse in this world.

I for one welcome the NWO, and i can just hope they do the job properly, the world will be a better place for it.



[edit on 27-5-2008 by The Soldier Of Darkness]


Who decides who is in control?

Who decides what is allowed?

What if the very people who should be controlled (according to you) end up being the controllers?

If you want to get the human race behaving itself then ironically you have to start by getting the current leaders to behave themselves. Wherever there are problems you will find "someone in control" who is greedy and/or incompetant and/or indulges in nepotism. And you want to increase the powers of these people....you are either mad or have completely misinterpreted the cause of the problem.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:29 AM
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Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
Like i said...I supercomputer, with AI intelligence, mixed with human DNA and bain cells etc..



Ok how did i miss the arrival of this technology, when did we aquire the ability to splice human dna & brain cells into a computer ?


Do you even realize what you sound like ? We are incapable of running the world so we need a giant computer to do it for us, but you want to put human dna & brain cells in this computer ?


So you want to put the main components of the beings that you say can not be trusted to run this world any longer into the machine that you would have run this world, does that honestly make sense to you ? Do you not see how flawed your thought process is ? And with this thought process you really think they will have a need or desire for your involvement in carrying out thier plan ? What happens when our dna & brain cells overrun the computer & seek revenge for what was done to us ?


I think you've played Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance one too many times & watched a few too many movies. Either that or your just playing some kind of game seeing how many people you can get riled up.


Could be one other thing you sound an awful lot like another member, haven't seen him on in awhile, could be that you're him.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Humankind is capable of amazing and horrible things, but I believe that the good will always outweigh the evil. I find the OPs lack of faith in mankind disturbing. To give up on everyone so easily is not healthy. This ideology stems from people who have not lived enough in the real world.

We as a species have always pushed ourselves to incredible discoverys, beautiful works of art and exploration. If this society were to develop there would be no reason for our race to exist. We would become genetically engineered cattle. We would essentialy be lobotomized and we would stop evolving. We need to keep pushing ourselves and if we stop moving we will simply die out.

god i sound like a hippie

The OPs comments show no value of human life, that is very scary



[edit on 28-5-2008 by drock905]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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They did not exterminate millions of people that they felt were inferior to them.

Could it be that YOU have not done the research into hitler's plans for his utopia ?

Actually i learned about hitler way before the tenth grade.

Could it be that you are a believer in hitler's beliefs since you take such offence ?



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 03:18 AM
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Since you consider yourself an 'occultist' I'm not at all surprised you feel this way. World control, eugenics, total domination and subjugation of humanity has been the traditional goal of various esoteric societies. I would say you are well on your way to achieving your goal.


Originally posted by chise61
I think you've played Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance one too many times


Close. This is the game he plays...
tentonhammer.com...

[edit on 28-5-2008 by TheComte]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 04:34 AM
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U see most of you are just ignorant, you don't realize that we already have AI intelligence, we already have drugs that alter and suppress emotions, the detention camps are being built, alot have already been built.

Right now i am actually playing "Hellgate: London"



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:00 AM
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Just a quick update, as most of you know everyone has so far shown extreme negativity towards the plans of the NWO, even though there is no certainty of how it would be done.

You have all been added to the list of people to be watched and monitored, with the exception of one or two of you who have the right frame of mind and will be put on the list of the ones to be recruited for future NWO purposes.

Congratulations.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas

Myself personally, well I've heard whispered rumors that he is a C.I.A. plant just like Saddam Hussein or Manuel Noriega were rumored as plants, stuck deep in the
and left to grow on their own.


Maybe so. But until now he has done good for Venezuela, for the 80% of them who are poor, not for the 20% who are rich and hate him, and have access to mass media and internet to make him look like an evil dictator. He was elected in fair elections

Venezuela Outlaws Trawl Fishing
www.commondreams.org...

The day he does something evil like invade another country or starts killing opposition, I will call him a tyrant. Until now his opposition is doing good, they even have their own TV station

Thanks Soldier of Darkness, nice to be on that list


[edit on 28-5-2008 by pai mei]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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most people doesn't deserve it, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any people that do deserve it.

the solution is to take away their freedom -if-, they don't deserve it.

[edit on 28-5-2008 by Greek]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
Why do I say this you ask ?

Because we as human beings do not deserve the freedoms we already have.

Imagine a world where everything is monitored and controlled, every person from birth, is educated and trained to fulfill a specific duty in the state.

Every person is assigned a place to live, is allowed to have one partner, and one child, who would be genetically modified before birth to remove any "weak" or 'diseased" DNA strands.

Personal time would be allowed, but monitored, clubs and bars would still exist, but alcohol would be served in limited amounts, special passes would be given to those who have earned it, and that person, and persons family would be allowed time off, to go on holiday.

The main entertainment would be virtual reality, where users enter a virtual world and choose any of the pre-designed games.

There would be no crime in society, those who rebel would be put in an Arena, and would be destroyed for the amusement and "warning" to the rest of the population on live TV.

One World, One Society, One Choice..

NWO


[edit on 27-5-2008 by The Soldier Of Darkness]


Your assumption is that EVERYONE doesn't deserve the rights they have....what little they have left now


The reality is that the majority of people are responsible and play by the rules and it's the minority the ruin it for the rest.

As example, in Michigan, we now have legislation which may pass that would ban ALL smoking in resturaunts and bars. This is because SOME smokers force their habit on others in those public places. So we have a small minority dictating where the majority may or may not go. These irresponsible, ignorant people are causing the government to further interfere in our lives.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:18 AM
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The thread maker is clearly just an attention seeker, that knows the buttons to push to get what they want! which is all your replies putting them on the front page of the website.. i would discourage people that use ATS that consider themselves intellectuals and that dont want to see "obama is a muslim" or "am i racist?" or anything else that is totally irellevant to the collective focus of the website. This persons goal is just to wind you up! cant you see?!



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:22 AM
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Ok that is your opinion...

This website is about conspiracy theories, political agendas, aliens, paranormal occurrences etc.

My thread was posted under political ideology, or are you saying that my thread does not belong under political ideology, because this is my personal ideology for the moment, and i am discussing and debating it with those who wish to do so, everyone can have their say, attack me, call me an idiot, those things don't bother me.

I like talking about my own interests and others, and love to hear what other people have to say or add to any thread i start.

If you do not like it, you do not have to click on my thread and read it, it is your own choice.

And if the mods felt this thread does not belong here, they would have removed it.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:23 AM
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I wouldn't mind a NWO on this planet and i agree that in the state we are in now ( collectively, not per se every person on this globe ), with the whole brainwashing game laced with fear and greed enducing qualities in them the world needs a strict hand untill we get our barings straight.

So yeah, at the start everybody gets checked on pretty strict and i mean EVERYBODY, from the richest most powerfull to the poorest bastard on this globe. Only when you prove yourself able to handle yourself will the reigns be loosened so you can use your new responsibilities untill you got free reign over what you intend to do with the time you have on this world.

The good part of this is that when a couple that has their brainwash of this time eliminated gets a kid that kid will not start at the point we will have to start but inherets the responsibilites and freedoms of their parents. If someone goes on the wrong path a part of their freedoms and responsibilities will be taken untill the time that persons earns them back.

I think a big part of the world is in need for re-education and the delusioned elites of this world maybe more then the general population.

How this will come to be i wouldn't know ( maybe an open source program that keeps track of everything ) but it would be a fair way to get our act together. NWO with the outlook on a normal, happy and fullfilling life where you get to make your own choices.

So, NWO could be the best thing happening to this globe but only if it is conducted fairly. If you take away any outlook on a free life the people of this world will wither and die and you end up with soulles walking death.

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posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:35 AM
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You make a good point there, but too many people will resist, and the NWO knows this, people are very stubborn to change, so sometimes change needs to be forced upon them, sometimes by any means necessary.

But the biggest changes has been happening right in front of our own eyes and and we do not even realize it.

I don't necessarily support a violent NWO, but a NWO is what this world needs, we need to start from scratch, starting with the re-education of the entire world population, removing poverty and over production of goods and unnecessary consumerism...



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:36 AM
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i would prefer to live underground, why would i wish to spend time with my savage race? they fight without the end for stupid reasons. I want to stay beneath the surface and search out the mysteries of the world.



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by jfj123As example, in Michigan, we now have legislation which may pass that would ban ALL smoking in resturaunts and bars. This is because SOME smokers force their habit on others in those public places.


why smoke in the first place?



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:47 AM
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I'm sorry, but what does smoking have to do with the NWO and this thread, really ?

People smoke because they want to, it is one of their "freedoms" and it is being taken away from them slowly but surely...

The media makes a big noise about celebrities, stupid things like "smoking laws" and diseases that don't even exist, all to put fear into the minds of those who watch the black box, and to cover or divert attention from whats really happening..

it is called a smoke screen...



[edit on 28-5-2008 by The Soldier Of Darkness]



posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by The Soldier Of Darkness
What freedom are you people talking about ?

We have no freedom, it is all an illusion, everything we do, every choice we make is because we are allowed by the ones who are currently in control.

Everything is already "controlled"

I agree that full Totalitarianism could be better than our current state of affairs.

"None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann von Goethe

At least we'd be under no false assumptions that we are truly free. We'd know we're not. It'd be nice to see an end to smoking, excessive-drinking, rape, littering, animal cruelty and other such symptoms of stupidity...

...but alas, I can't support the concept. We have a lot of problems to solve and flaws to fix, but the means are as important as the end. If we were to reach NWO "perfection", we'd have sold our souls to get there, and what use is "utopia" when your soul, heart and spirit are buried beneath the rubbles of a free world?





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