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Originally posted by Cantwara
I certainly think we need to give serious thought to inhibiting the prevelant mindset that a life on benefits and never having to work is a birthright. The welfare dependency culture has bred all sorts of problems in the UK, not least anti-social behaviour because personal responsibility/accountability has been allowed to atrophy.
I suspect this is all vote garnering bluster from the tory's although I'd welcome a hardline approach to deal with the problems we have regarding chav culture.
Originally posted by Cantwara
So would you say, with regards to the problems we're having in the UK today, that the best way to deal with people is to make them accountable and responsible for themselves. Do you think the practice of giving people mutpile chances and no consequences is damaging and creates a self obssessed mindset, or is there a way to use the best of both systems to nurture the best in people.
I say this because at one point in my youth I was a bit of an arsehole too and whenever I got caught out I'd fall back on the whole 'it's not my fault, there's nothing for us to do, nobody understands what it's like for us kids, it's not fair blah blah BS. Luckily, at that point in time, people weren't scared to give you a kick up the arse when you tried to pull that stunt (and make no mistake I was very well aware it was a stunt). God knows how I would've turned out if we'd had todays bleeding heart culture.
Originally posted by thesaint
Sure i really do believe National Service would work. Hell most other European countries do it. I recently visited both Amsterdam and Switzerland. Patrolling the airport at Amsterdam were young gentlemen in military fatigues and armed and definitely proud of what they were doing. Same in Switzerland and i even managed a drink or two with a few off duty but uniformed young gentlemen who told me they were having a great experience.
Youth in UK at the moment are not your old fashioned kids causing a bit of trouble. They are mostly dressed in black, Hooded and sometimes masked gangs. Hanging around outside late stores, Bus shelters etc. Hell my own Mrs wont even go the shop at night in case they are outside because they love to imtimidate every person who walks past. The girls are just as bad in fact sometimes worse. Usually drunk or smoking weed and very very imtimidating. Thats just your average town but then you go to a place like my home city of Liverpool where these kids now have guns.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
However a sociopath will always do harm regardless of being trained and that's what worries me about the current upbringing. They seem to have no conscience, and a society with an increasing population of such people is doomed to an awful crime rate.