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ACLU and Immigration

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posted on May, 26 2008 @ 12:32 AM
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Apparently the enforcement of Immigration Laws is coming under attack by the ACLU.


State and local police who help enforce federal immigration laws are targeting Latinos and "terrorizing" people across the United States, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said at a briefing on Capitol Hill on Monday.

"Massive immigration sweeps are terrorizing communities across the country, including those who are U.S. citizens, permanent residents and other lawful workers," she stated.

Lin, on a panel with five other speakers, said the ACLU opposes section 287(g) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which allows the Department of Homeland Security and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division to enter into partnerships with state and local law enforcement agencies, in which local officers are authorized to operate as federal immigration agents. The designated police officers have been trained and are under the supervision of ICE officers.

CNS News

Well I guess we had to know that the Liberal Mind Control Nazis would do whatever they could to make sure we can't enforce the law.

Semper




posted on May, 26 2008 @ 02:47 AM
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OK, as a general rule, I support the ACLU and consider myself a member; however, on this issue, I disagree. Since it has been proven that the majority of the illegal immigrants in this country are Hispanic, it stands to reason that more of them would be detained for entering the country illegally. As for the harassment, I am one of those who does believe that, despite the fact that they disobeyed the laws, they should be treated humanely. What I don't believe is that they have the right to continue living and working in a country that they bear no responsibility or allegiance to.

I'm still curious about one thing. If KBR got the contract to build the detention centers for illegal immigrants in 2006, where the H#LL are they? Why are we not able to arrest more illegal immigrants and detain them in these centers until they are deported?????



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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I think that an issue has also fallen through the cracks...

Where is the much talked about Border Fence?

Was there not some huge amount of money allocated, even paid, to have it built?

Now, just nothing..

Heck I could have called Sears by now and they would have it done..

Semper



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:05 AM
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I agree as well
however the majority of illegals are not just "hispanic" that is doing a disservice to all of SouthAmerica and the Carribean- they are mostly Mexican Immigrants

This is an important distinction i feel Culturally as well as ethinically.
the labels applied here don't help the situation at all.
of course the good illegal Russians and Polish are being largely ignored
Polska!



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:12 AM
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Or, how about solving the cause of the problem, not the symptoms? That would make more sense, surely.

If Mexico was a prosperous country, this wouldn't be an issue. The wealth disparity in north America is ridiculously lop-sided. Of course this is going to happen.



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Didn't you hear? They spent billions on that fence and it didn't work! Personally, I don't think all of those billions went into building that fence, but I suppose that that's why they call me a conspiracy theorist, huh?



posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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This is another area in which he ACLU might have actually exacerbated the problem. When the letters with a list of fake social security numbers was supposed to be sent out to all employers, the ACLU blocked the effort, saying that is was discriminatory. In the grand scheme of discrimination, the letters and subsequent firing of people using fake social security numbers would have been much less discriminatory than what the ACLU feels compelled to fight against now.



posted on May, 27 2008 @ 12:36 AM
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so...i would like the views of people that actually live on the border of US/Mexico and how it affects them....

would their cities even work without them?..i don't see why the US just doesn't allow better work visas to the people of the south like it does to europeans?

I say let them come across the border but make laws that once in the US you are subject to the laws of the land...how's that?



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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i am currently living in southern California
and without illegals, the system would work just fine.
the trouble is the culture of the Souther Califonians is just lazy because of the influx of cheap and available labor.
I know more kids would have to cut their lawns and trim hedges (like i did for mom growing up)
more young people would wok in the service industries and in restaurants and a general appreciation for hard work might develop in the 'gentry' of Southern California and especially Orange country.

construction would continue and more of the worker would simply be locals. would things slow down? yes as the work force would be smaller, but that isn't bad, it would be available for many students and locals than before and it owuld not take long for it to get back into swing.
the reliance on the Illegal labor force is just due to greed- they are cheap and OSHA can't get involved as these people 'don't exist' and working condtion s don't have to be to any standard.
and as far as local eateries and such- the local menu is established, some one else would work or run the 'roach coaches' and little stands...
this country would survive and be stronger for it,a s every citizen would have had a part in making it better, unlike now too many citizens are lazy and greedy cracking the whip on the illegal.

as far as the effects on me, well i am pretty isolated as i am not in a labor field of work, but yes I cut my lawn and trim my hedges, and do my own auto repairs, not to be cheap but unless i know the people working are not illegal i will not support a business that hires such.
i have known a few high school kids who could not get a job at the local garage because they were simply too expensive to compete with the illegal grease monkey and mechanic. as well many have not been able to even be 'pool boys,' delivery or moving guys, or even construction jobbers as the illegal work force has made it impossible to hire citizens over the 5 dollar an hour illegal. and sometimes they take 20 bucks a day and drive south at night.
I would blame Mexico itself for not helping out their people with so many natural resources and so many people i don't see what the problem is-Mexico and some few countries down south need to step up and think about how to help or organize a better country
unless this is really part of a bigger conspiracy and the NWO to keep the se place down in the 3rd world...another thread perhaps



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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I'm curious how the AMERICAN Civil Liberties Union is now supporting the rights of non-Americans at the expense of actual Americans.

Wouldn't an organization dedicated to the civil liberties of AMERICANS stand for the rights of AMERICANS to democratically elect a representative government to enact and enforce laws on behalf of Americans?

So how does the ACLU justify advocating for the rights of non-Americans violating the rights being exercised by actual Americans???



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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The ACLU is just a name, it shows their heritage.



The term "liberal" is obsolete, by the way; the preferred term is:


"Post-american."


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posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by dr_strangecraft


The ACLU is just a name, it shows their heritage.



The term "liberal" is obsolete, by the way; the preferred term is:


"Post-american."


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From my experience a lot of times it's just outright anti-American.

I also heard that ACLU really stands for All Criminals Love Us.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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You know i was hoping that these replies would be logical with no racist undertones, but i guess not ever here at ATS...thats sad.....

and i really mean't border cities not Southern Cali.....



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