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reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 08:32 PM by zarlaan
reply to post by 1freelectron


I'll try to answer some of your questions. This actually is not the first parachute and rockets combination lander. The Viking lander was actually the first to use such devices. The Phoenix lander is just the first one tried in about 32 years. It is also the first successful mission to one of the poles on Mars. If you watch the video simulation of the landing or read the mission details its stated that the parachute was detached after slowing down the lander. The parachute then detached from the lander and then the rockets kicked in approximately 2 seconds later.

There is no evidence right now that it is either crystal, CO2 ice or something more exotic. This white object in the picture was the third question asked by the media to the NASA panel as soon as they started taking questions. It has been asked about 2 or 3 more times from the media as to what the panel thinks it may be.

People still need to keep in mind that the image in discussion was a low res picture taking from a camera intended to look at the lander itself for damage really. Give it time for the quality pictures to come back before making any real determination.

You can bet however that the media will not forget about it without some sort of answers as said before it was almost their first question to be asked multiple times. If NASA gives an answer that people are wanting or wishing for is another topic.










[edit on 26-5-2008 by zarlaan]


reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 09:14 PM by 1freelectron
reply to post by zarlaan


Actually the image i posted recently was taken 180 degrees opposite from the image that the media was asking about. this image was just released about an hour ago.



reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 09:55 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorgon


Zorgon,

Mars geysers!!! Really, your photoshopping skills are improving!!!

AND some call ME a dis-info agent!!!!


reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 10:09 PM by WISHADOW
reply to post by cactusjacks



Definately looks like a parachute in one of the photos. However, I'm very disappointed in not being able to point out any seashells, skulls, rinds, skeletons, decepticons, etc. Very dissappointed in this 500 million dollar digital camera.

I cannot believe that NASA blows all this money for geological adventures, instead of using this money for advancing technology to live in space or create spaceships.

This is a big joke next to Nasa's BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!


Does anyone find this totally lame? So their going to go send astronauts (I mean geologists) to Mars huh? Yeah I bet that's going to be another moon landing skit in some hangar outside of Hollywood.


So they find their water sample. Woopdee Doo!



LET'S SEE THE REAL DEAL



[edit on 26-5-2008 by WISHADOW]


reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 10:50 PM by scobro
reply to post by mattguy404


Hi.

Perhaps that is the real reason they landed in this area?
Maybe they knew that some sort of object was there,and decided to try and capture an image of it and study it,while searching the soil for the presence of ice.

This would perhaps explain why one of the very first images recieved does show this anomaly.

[edit on 26-5-2008 by scobro]


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 12:06 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by Cyberbian


Cyberbian....what a brilliant analysis!!!

Big star for you! If anyone wonders why the Phoenix Lander was aimed at the Polar regions of Mars, just do some due diligence research.

Spirit and Opportunity....they need solar energy to stay powered....to recharge batteries...the equatorial regions were best for that.

Phoenix....not sure the power source on that vehicle....don't care, just hope it does good science....and if water ice is found, in any great quantity, then it's well worth the effort!!!!


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 12:53 AM by internos
Phoenix Makes a Grand Entrance


NASA's Mars Phoenix Lander can be seen parachuting down to Mars, in this image captured by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. This is the first time that a spacecraft has imaged the final descent of another spacecraft onto a planetary body.

From a distance of about 310 kilometers (193 miles) above the surface of the Red Planet, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter pointed its HiRISE obliquely toward Phoenix shortly after it opened its parachute while descending through the Martian atmosphere. The image reveals an apparent 10-meter-wide (30-foot-wide) parachute fully inflated. The bright pixels below the parachute show a dangling Phoenix. The image faintly detects the chords attaching the backshell and parachute. The surroundings look dark, but corresponds to the fully illuminated Martian surface, which is much darker than the parachute and backshell.

Phoenix released its parachute at an altitude of about 12.6 kilometers (7.8 miles) and a velocity of 1.7 times the speed of sound.

The HiRISE, acquired this image on May 25, 2008, at 4:36 p.m. Pacific Time (7:36 p.m. Eastern Time). It is a highly oblique view of the Martian surface, 26 degrees above the horizon, or 64 degrees from the normal straight-down imaging of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. The image has a scale of 0.76 meters per pixel.

This image has been brightened to show the patterned surface of Mars in the background.


www.nasa.gov...


Here PSP_008301_2480 can be found one of the many images that have been taken over the Phoenix landing site.

Phoenix touched down on the Red Planet at 4:53 p.m. Pacific Time (7:53 Eastern Time), May 25, 2008, in an arctic region called Vastitas Borealis, at 68 degrees north latitude, 234 degrees east longitude.


Latitude (centered): 68.0 °
Longitude (East): 234.9 °
Range to target site: 338.0 km (211.2 miles)
Original image scale range: 33.8 cm/pixel
(with 1 x 1 binning) so objects ~101 cm across are resolved

hirise.lpl.arizona.edu...

So whatever are we seeing in Phoenix's image, it has to be here, somewhere, but it also may appear like a dot, (unless it's a part of the lander like i.e. protective backshell).


[edit on 27/5/2008 by internos]


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 12:56 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by internos


Well done, Internos!!!!

Thank you so much for bringing that to ATS!!!

Can't wait to see more!!!

WW


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 01:35 AM by Anonymous ATS
Another strange object appears in this photo.

Since both of these objects appear white and reflective, perhaps what we're seeing is ice?
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