Will Phoenix land or crash on Mars?, page 4
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reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 07:52 AM by rikriley
Originally posted by vze2xjjk
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Skekke thanks for turning me on to that pic in particular.The white verticle abberation also caught my eyelike a gleaming reflection in another pic.I guess we'll have to wait for more detailed close-ups of that area to get a better handle on what it is or if it disappears altogether without a trace then we'll scratch heads until some other puzzle piece falls our way. When I looked at the image(whole frame) enlarged and in NEGATIVE,I saw a sea of live faces,as if it were Spirit rover on a "busy" day with the animals agitated surrounding it with curiousity.Those solar panels had better be strong enough to support the animals that will soon crawl over them for warmth on a chilly sunbathing day. The many faces in NEGATIVE image cover most of the land area(no sky) in the whole frame. I'd estimate a hundred faces of all sizes. I realize they are tough to see,so even an approximate number is good enough for people who have seen a few faces already and wonder what they are missing. I've been at this for 4 1/2 years almost,so flinching isn't what I do best.


Hi vze, you are correct there are hundreds of faces and many are humanoid, the tiny humanoids I call Sandmaries. I did not expect nothing less then to see these lifeforms in the northern plains of Vastitas Borealis landing site of Phoenix. You will see tiny tiny structures also these are geometric and I believe were not manufactured out of thin air. Most will not see these anomalies and are seeing in 1D or 2D instead of 3D. Humans were made to see best in the yellow or green light spectrum and you know this because of your colored photographic presentations of Mars.

I was surprised that NASA had not masked some of the lifeforms as of yet. We will have to compare photos from the originals as days progress to detect movement of the lifeforms. we will be limited to a 360 degree panaromac view of the landing site because as you know the lander is stationary. The Landers robotic arm will be doing it's job digging and scooping and I believe will find ice made up of frozen water H20 and not frozen carbon dioxide as formally thought. The first signs of microbial life will be announced as ancient life and the story will change to existing microbial life forms.

Most humans can see full spectrum light from 400 nanometers violet range to approx. 700 nanometers the Red color range. This is called the rainbow or visual spectrum for humans. You have spent 4 1/2 years scanning and viewing photos of Mars and I have spent over 15 years starting with Viking Lander missions 1 and 2.

We have picked up visually the digital visual full spectrum light code of Mars it is because our brains have assimilated this photographic information thru the rods, cones plus 3 receptors of the eye by way of the retina receiving light wavelengths to the brain and this is called tristimulus vision. Most humans do not know that because we as humans have 2 eyes and the information light wavelength impulses we receive by reflected light to the brain are split and have to be reassembled in the brain for assimilation to see objects. Rik Riley


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 01:27 PM by vze2xjjk
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Rik thanks for that informed explanation above.I'm not holding out for nasa to announce anything breathtaking ,since I feel they are nowhere near motivated for disclosure when the military holds them in a choke-hold as far as free flow of info.Jail terms for disclosure makes me a tad suspicious. You were quite right about the teeming numbers of life forms at this site.Sandmaries all over.Higher res will show them better.What I don't see so far are the invisibles above the skyline.That probably won't last long. So,many thanks again for your info.



reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 03:13 PM by yeti101
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your showing your ignorance. Nasa have known for a while what kind of ice is on mars and where it is. The surface ice is almost purely CO2 ice. Thats the exact reason they never went direct to the martian pole. They want to get underneath the surface layers as thats where there is more water ice.

Thats the reason they have a robotic arm that can dig down and also why they landed where they did. They may be unlucky and hit a patch which has co2 or no ice but they hope to find some water ice there.

Your statement that nasa said they expect to find only CO2 ice is completely false.


reply posted on 30-5-2008 @ 04:24 PM by rikriley
Originally posted by yeti101
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your showing your ignorance. Nasa have known for a while what kind of ice is on mars and where it is. The surface ice is almost purely CO2 ice. Thats the exact reason they never went direct to the martian pole. They want to get underneath the surface layers as thats where there is more water ice.

Thats the reason they have a robotic arm that can dig down and also why they landed where they did. They may be unlucky and hit a patch which has co2 or no ice but they hope to find some water ice there.

Your statement that nasa said they expect to find only CO2 ice is completely false.



I read it wrong thanks for the correction. I have found two interesting sights about ice on Mars containing CO2 and H20. In 1971 Mariner 9 first made orbit around Mars and flew by Phobos and Demos the 2 Moons of Mars. The Mariner 9 satellite took over 7,000 photos to help map Mars and was said to have found frozen water beneath CO2 ice caps. I do not believe there is CO2 ice on Mars because I believe that Mars has a lot more in common than we are being told with temperatures, the atmosphere on Earth and the existence of life including humanoid.

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