Originally posted by gs001

Originally posted by zarzar
Anyway, I was working in the area of human rights throughout the years, and I think what we have done both domestically and for the oppressed countries had a good result. In our case we could not just stay and watch quietly all those dictators doing a serious harm to people in the countries they have the power. We had to speak out and we will always do that, either individually or not. That is our moral obligation - at least for us.

Obligation? Is that called moral superiority complex?
Are you sure Chinese people need your "obligation"?
Are you going to persuade Chinese people that those separatists who
want to split their country is NOT their enemy but their friend?
I guess that must be a toooooooooo hard work.

The separatists you are talking about are just normal people that want to live a peaceful life. If it was not for the cultural genocide of the Communist party there would not be any talks even for autonomy.

There are millions of Chinese people that I could help and they dream of our help. Even if they amount to a small percentage of the Chinese population, I am still going to extend help. There are millions of people in the world that I could and I want to help as well. That is what I believe in and that is what many of us here believe in.

You could spare your bad manners of insulting. It is bad for your image and the image of your nation.

I'm sorry for all in distress for whatever reasons. I think we are culturally divergent. We put more emphasis on the interest of the family, the group, the country, while you cherish personal freedom. You might think the interest of a small portion of the population is more important and their wishes shall be respected and supported. but are you sure all they want is only "peacefulling living". I'm not sure. I guess most of the ppl have not access the full picture of some history or events. We judge by what we hear, read, see, but is it enough for us to draw a fair conclusion? I'm not sure. I think I have enough freedom to lead a peaceful life in china per my own experience, and so do most of my friends and acquaintances. I don't know what kind of pursuit would have plunge these u mentioned into that tragic situation. I guess the gap between we chinese and u westeners will never be bridged, not that I may live long enough to witness.

zarzar sounds like a radical anti china activist.but thank god,most people here either westerners and chinese are sharing similiar attitude on this thread,he is just a nasty individual,we can forget about him.some people cant tolerate to see the fact that china is rising amazingly fast and becoming a world power.let them grind their teeth and hit the ceiling.the more furious they are,the more happier we should be.cause we know our country is racing to the top of the world.they are lefte behind further and further.we should just focus on one thing,developing the economy and making china rich and strong.now we are on the right track,they can make noise,but who cares,noise can not stop our dynamic development.

thanks for the kind comments made by most ATS users here,your heart is in the right place.thank you!

Originally posted by zarzar
The separatists you are talking about are just normal people that want to live a peaceful life. If it was not for the cultural genocide of the Communist party there would not be any talks even for autonomy.

There are millions of Chinese people that I could help and they dream of our help. Even if they amount to a small percentage of the Chinese population, I am still going to extend help. There are millions of people in the world that I could and I want to help as well. That is what I believe in and that is what many of us here believe in.

You could spare your bad manners of insulting. It is bad for your image and the image of your nation.

Have you ever been to China?
Tell me what help have you extended to those "millions of Chinese people"?
Have you ever been to Tibet?
If not, pay a visit to Tibet and talk with local Tibetan instead of
former slaveholder.


[edit on 27-5-2008 by gs001]

I find it interesting that Stone is part of the liberal Hollywood crowd who gave so much grief to Pat Robertson when he suggested Katrina was punishment for new Orleans sinful ways.

Add hypocrisy to the liberal list.

There are millions of Chinese people that I could help and they dream of our help.

wow, this one actually make me laugh loud.

seriously, are you sure you are not just kidding??? cuz it's really sound like Lex Luthor is dying try to help Clark out. like we are reeeaaally want you to "save" us or the "evil Chinese government" will kill us all. well, anyway. who knows, maybe the people in the middle esat or those black slaves will agree you more than we do.

and 80 million??? wow that's nearly 10% of Chinese population. can you so called "human rights" dude be a little honest with people?? cuz you're not only talking nonsense , but also humiliating yourself.

btw: don't tell me that your number is coming from one of those FLG fancy website or anyother western government raised anti-China group website or that can be easily self updated wiki site. cuz it's only making you look worse.

[edit on 27-5-2008 by zhangxi0183]

seems like zarzar has successfully lead us off the topic.

so, why don't we stop the trash talking and stick back to the topic we suppose to talk about.

I seriously wonder what that vaccum head would say about 9/11. It's not even a natural disaster. What about her brain tumour? Must be getting bigger judging from what her notion of "karma" is. To bring that sort of slur on to hundreds of thousands of innocent people, most of whom children, is simply malicious totally biggotted. Shame, shame, if that's what super-star quality is all about.

China enjoys rare moment of global support

The country won long-sought international sympathy for its tragic earthquake and rapid government response.
By Peter Ford | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

from the May 27, 2008 edition


Compiled by Leigh Montgomery

Beijing - In an unexpected silver lining to the tragic Sichuan earthquake, China's international image has enjoyed dramatic improvement over the past two weeks as people around the world react with sympathy for the victims and admiration for Beijing's immediate response.

Beijing's rapid response was encapsulated by the hands-on efforts of Prime Minister Wen Jiabao, who flew with other government officials to Sichuan Province within two hours of the quake. Television crews followed him for the next several days directing rescue efforts, shouting encouragement to buried survivors, and comforting bereaved parents.

Mr. Wen made his second trip to the quake zone last week, where pressing problems remain: A strong aftershock on Sunday killed at least eight people, and looming storms heightened fears that rivers and reservoirs clogged by landslides and quake debris could flood.

I remember seeing Elvis Presley interviewed on TV when I was 7 years old. At that time, he had 100 times the "star power" Sharon Stone could ever have. He was adored.
The interviewer asked a string of questions about morality, politics and the Vietnam war. Even though he surely had his opinions, Elvis replied: "I don't know about all that, I'm just an entertainer." I always thought that was cool.