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Video: 'Spin' ---T.V. Footage you were never supposed to see

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posted on May, 26 2008 @ 01:58 AM
reply to post by thebeard

I can only offer one star for you, thebeard, but you deserve many more.

It's great to hear from someone who knows the business....thanks!!

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 02:51 AM
Great post, I've watched the video, I think every post here in ATS is a small step towards awakening, we're being manipulated from every possible means and they are getting away with it, it's time to stop this madness. Starred ad flagged

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 03:08 AM

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 04:04 AM
Good find for sure,

unfortunatly there is nothing really new there for me...

which is why my T.V spends all of its time switched OFF...

Down with T.V Long live A.T.S!!!!

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 04:12 AM

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

Google Video Link

Found another MUST-SEE of "behind the scenes" media mind-control and brain-washing propaganda standard practices that are being propegated against the unsuspecting masses...It is unreal the mind warfare that is being waged against us!!!

Time for everyone to wake up!

Artist Brian Springer spent a year scouring the airwaves with a satellite dish grabbing back channel news feeds not intended for public consumption. The result of his research is SPIN, one of the most insightful films ever made about the mechanics of how television is used as a tool of social control to distort and limit the American public's perception of reality.

Take the time to watch it from beginning to end and you'll never look at TV reporting the same again. Tell your friends about it. This extraordinary film released in the early 1990s is almost completely unknown. Hopefully, the Internet will change that.

[edit on 24-5-2008 by DimensionalDetective]

Abosultely amazing find! If only all ATS members had a satelight able to pick the feeds up! (Hint To ATS)

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 09:48 AM
I watched this in a media class I took about 5-6 years ago (at URI in Rhode Island). Great class, however, the professor was a big proponent of spin, almost teaching it to his communications class like a viable skill.

This is one of many Great programs that try and show the truth...

Truly something that must be watched by the masses. If anything I say that people everywhere should buy some time on their local programming channel and broadcast this and a few other programs like this...

America needed to wake up decades ago. I think it's too late.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 10:14 AM
Seen the vid. Am very disappointed in what I see. I wonder who these people can live with themselves. I suppose its no different what they did in the old days by spinning stories. Its do anything and say anything so long as I win. Most people will eat it hook line and sinker.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 10:51 AM
We have spent most of our lives being programmed. And because the systems in place are not even visible to the masses it will require EFFORT to break free of the programming. Even the short time it takes to watch this video is too much for many and requires actual thought to make sense of it all.

I won't hold my breath for it to wake up very many as I sent the clip to all in my address book and got zero replies.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 10:56 AM
For those who asked about getting these type of feeds nowadays. Here's what I know. I've been installing satellite - Directtv and Dish for the last year, I do know a little bit.

My boss has been doing this work since 1990. So I asked him about these older dishes, if they still work. He said they don't work anymore, the satellites are have all been turned off. IIRC, something like that. Either that or the boxes don't work anymore. With the newer systems, without the card that gets activated by the company with your channel package on it you get nothing. They control what is seen, these types of feeds don't come through anymore. It's the same feed, like cable or broadcast, with commercials. Nothing can be seen days ahead or without the commercials anymore. At least from a home unit, maybe in a television station you can get this stuff, but as far as I know you cannot get them with Directtv or Dish network. As far as what I've seen, at least.

Maybe the old dishes still work but that's what I was told. Take it for what it's worth.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 11:18 AM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

thanks for sharing...

i knew before this that the governments use the media as a tool...i wish everyone knew about it.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 12:28 PM
My question is, who are these people? Notice how utterly STUPID the talking heads look between statements. They sit there like drugged out zombies! Talk about puppet masters, the ones coaching them never came on screen, they always talked in hushed tones, It was like I could feel the evil eminating from the 'coaches'.

I dont know if I believe in shape shifters, but notice the change from when the talking heads think they are off air and then the 180 they do when they are told they are on air. It gives me the creeps watching it. Pure evil...

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 01:07 PM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

This video and many others of the same kind, along with films were shown to me whe I attended a course in tv directing.

They wanted to show us the power of the media, specially the TV.

Pools are fabricated, images are taken out of context, anchors are actors, news are scripts, editorial guidelines are dictated by economical and political powers...

Do I need to say more? ...During a year I was trained to understand and accept this as the way things are in TV.

I never tried to find a job in the television industry.

Not to mention the type of people you have to deal with when you work in such an environment...

These satellite feeds are pretty common and these are pretty harmless but gives you a glimpse of what this world is.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 02:15 PM
"WE" all know this has been happening for decades but this needs to be starred and flagged and then spread as far as possible so the real world becomes aware.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 04:38 PM
reply to post by TheLoony

Well, this is partially right. With a dish network or other mini dish you can't get these signals. You also can't get them with a traditional in home reciever like the ones people used to use with the big dishes. The satellites are not turned off though and the big dishes themselves haven't changed too much, I'm not sure what your boss meant by that.

I think when the guy from the video recorded all of these clips there were secondary feeds on the same satellite as the show that users could tune into for some reason, sort of like EAS or SAP audio for listening to the weather reports or the spanish audio version of various shows. As I said before, I'm shocked that the stations were putting this stuff on the airwaves without warning the talent. In a way, this was a sort of fly on the wall scenario.

The feeds are still out there though, and many of them are free and clear if you have the equiptment and know where to point the dish.

This is a list of free satellite channels available in the US, not all of them are tunable for us since some of them use different encoding than we have the ability to decode. But as I said before, with the right equiptment, you can see them all. At my last job I was trying to learn how to use the satellite tuner since we didn't have anyone on site that knew how to use it (long story) it was entertaining to find a bird and just flip through the channels, lots of interesting stuff out there; religious shows, interviews, people waiting for their live shots, lots of scrambled porn out there too with some on the same satellite as the religious channels (that always made me chuckle for some reason).

The things I can watch at work now come either that list (things like the nasa feeds) or from various tv stations across the country, we send a request for video and then get an e-mail from them saying what bird to point at and the various settings to tune it in. If anyone else recieved that same email and had the equiptment they could watch the raw feed as well. I've worked on remotes from the satellite truck and from the station. Believe me when I say this stuff is still out there, the only differences between a tv station and the general public is that the average citizen isn't going to drop a few grand on the equiptment needed to watch the feeds and won't get all of the same coordinates for the various live shots either. If you were rich, smart, and daring enough, you could intercept and pirate everything being broadcast to the satellites around the world.

I'm watching a random feed right now at work, I'm not sure what it is exactly since I don't have the sound up but for a long time it was just showing a wide shot of a park and then a reporter stepped in. I turned up the sound for a minute or two and heard him talking to New York, asking what time they were going to be on. He checked his watch, shuffled his papers, and then in another minute or so started doing his live intro. Now it appears to be an outdoor press conference of some sort.

This is not something we are airing, we really have no business watching it, but I can because they are using the same satellite we will be using later. The equiptment we have here isn't anything spectacular, the most expensive thing is the dish on the roof with the pan and tilt controls. Other than that we only have two satellite recievers; a motorola dsr4410 and a Wegener unity 5000. With those two boxes we can dial in most free and clear analogue or digital feeds and anything that we need to get from our sister stations.

Again, great video from the op, it does show a glimpse of what can go on behind the scenes. Also thanks for the kind words weedwhacker
I try to help where i can.

Back to work...

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 06:51 PM

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 04:25 PM
This is a great topic and video. I was in elementary school when this came out, so I wasn't exactly politically minded at the time. I found the Larry Agran section to be extremely depressing and informative, as to me, it just mirrors the present Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich situation. Sad to see not much changes as time goes by. Everyone's human though, so I guess we can't expect too much from anyone regardless of fame, intelligence, or power. Too bad.

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:00 PM
I'm surprised that so many people here are surprised, or shocked by this.
Not criticizing anyone who is shocked by this, but I find it surprising.

We didn't know this was happening? Do we really expect TV to be portraying the truth?

I can see why some younger people here might find this shocking, and I'm curious to know what the age range is of the posters in this thread. That would be interesting to know.

[edit on 28-5-2008 by Electro38]

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:07 PM
The feeds your are referring to are called "WILD FEEDS" in the satellite world. They are typically received through the large C-Band dishes that some older residential homes have. They have not all be deactivated and are still being used to this day. In the underground satellite world people watch these feeds religiously scanning satellites for these feeds. You'd be amazed what you can see with an old C-band dish. Direct Tv and Dish network operant in a spectrum referred to as Ku-band. I hope this helps some.

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:14 PM
reply to post by Electro38

Well, I think we here at ATS are pretty well aware of it, but you'd be suprised at just how many main stream, average Joes have are completely clueless on how they are being manipulated and herded like a sheep by these mind-control excersizes. It is something that occurs from our early childhood right up until the day we die if we don't "think outside the box" and question things.

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 08:21 PM
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

Yes, I am really surprised. I find that very interesting too, that people are shocked by this, and how it's being received as a "revelation".

(I hope I don't sound criticizing, I'm not at all. I just find the response to this very interesting.)

I thought I was going to see something really scary here.

Well, I guess anyone can allow their minds to be controlled via TV. We really shouldn't be believing in everything seen on TV or written in books anyway. I thought that was just common sense.

[edit on 28-5-2008 by Electro38]

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