Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by Bigwhammy
Morality has no standard thats the problem, we all customize life to our own wants and desires to what we want and not to what is right.
You said "to what we want and not to what is right".
Huh? How can you say such thing Drakir?
If there is no standard how do you know what is right?
What are you measuring by - if not a standard?
[edit on 5/30/2008 by Bigwhammy]
That's the problem with subjective morality whammy is that it comes down to what ever WE think is right, IS right.
I have heard Atheists use this kind of pop-psychology to justify their own morality using such cliches as "Atheists do right because it's the right
thing to do", leaving me somewhat dumbfounded by the glaring question in that statement that goes un-answered, that being, yeah well just what IS
What's right for you may not be perfectly acceptable behavior for another.
Just seeing the many asinine completely ignorant and idiotic claims this so called intellectually superior group of people make about Christians and
Christianity speaks volumes to how contradictory they can be.
Just seeing how they take every opportunity where if something or someone has done something to cause harm to another, the first thing they do is
rather than investigate the provocation for the act, they first want to know if it was a theist so they can make a connection to theism rather than
what the facts are.
We have seen them do this time and time again and it is testimony to the absolute untrustworthy fallacious and irresponsible devil may care prejudice
they have polluted Science with, replacing honest, impartial, forthright objectivity with bias, discrimination and angst aggression against anything,
and I mean anything having religious, moral implications.
We have seen this attitude expressed in the best selling books where they have repeated the same sentiments as the authors to justify many arguments
that are baseless, unfounded while still others are completely and purposefully orchestrated to substantiate their reasoning while the data they use
has been either manufactured of fabricated.
I have seen them use Jail statistics to prove Atheists as the least likely to commit a crime when the accuracy of that kind of statistic using the
data they are using is so absolutely ridiculous, it is understandable why most of the other claims they make are so easy to exploit as bunk upon
If a bunch of gay men beat me, injuring me severely because I'm a straight, white male, no will argue that a history of discrimination and violence
against straight, white males renders this attack as a hate crime against white males. If the opposite were to happen?
Yeah you bet it would be called a hate crime.
This is one of the the many items for Atheists who are so busy re-writing laws to protect them and their Ally's the Buddhists and gay activists.
They have been the largest most industrious group of history revisionists also. Topics ranging from issues about the holocaust never happening to
Christ never existing. By and large we see them wanting the NWO and are busy defending freedom of speech for pedophiles and convicted sex crimes
defendants, while methodically taking our own religious freedom of expression away piece by piece. We see it all over the Internet and as
AshleyD's thread "gullibility of evolution" has proven, the first to defend Evolution, isn't Scientists but ATHEIST'S and they have done it with
such religious fervor that their is no question to the striking similarities and that it is a religion to them, not science at all.
This so called Science community whose posting styles are always framed where they are speaking for Science in first person experientially assumed
posts as if THEY were Scientists when what we usually find is they are NOT and just think they are. We have seen in this thread the blatant bold,
stuck up, conceit, over exaggerated opinions they have of themselves and other Atheist's merely because they are Atheist's.
When you have Zoo Keeper Dick Dawkins, and Professional Narcissist Sam Harris making sweeping statements such as "Atheist's are the most
intelligent" of our society, it is something these people as a group will not only accept as a compliment but will believe as fact when the fact is,
Sam Harris is so full of himself, so fond of his opinions he believes his own BS. We saw this when he started using theism as the reason for 911 WTC
tragedy saying it wasn't Atheists crashing those planes into buildings as if being Muslim was the reason they did it and not the political facts
behind the whole thing.
This is the kind of morality we can expect from Atheists like this moreover if it HAD been Atheist's, you can bet they would language their way out
from under taking responsibility for it by saying "It wasn't done in the name of Atheism.
You may ask yourself, "well what the hell ever is?"
That is where Atheists will drop names like Bill Gates to attache themselves to acts of charity riding on Bills Coat tails of Atheism to show they are
generous giving people even though Bill never gives to any charity in the name of Atheism.
We see this double standard for Double speak and circular semantics all the time. It is just a clever way to deceive people, another way they lie so
often seen it has fast become a stereotype that fits them hand to glove.
Christians have always admitted we are a very flawed people who often Miss the mark and are guilty of many a tragedy throughout history, but getting
an Atheist to apologise or even admit their is even a remote possibility they are wrong is next to impossible when the supposition is put to them by a
We have seen the blunt repugnant and absolutely disgusting hatred and prejudice of the Christian so convincingly but erroneously expressed and
displayed by weedwhaker. When his hatred is exploited however, what does this arrogant angry Atheist do?
He completely ignores his monumental hypocrisy and slings even more vile hatred and "Nastiness" as he calls it.
This is the kind of self reflection the Atheist has shown as not what is wrong with them but what is wrong with YOU and finds no shortage of excuses
to ridicule others unjustly regardless for the provocation he causes for the treatment he got in the first place.
Not only do we see it with Atheist's who are NOT scientists where they can not be honest with others much less be honest with themselves, we see it
at the very top in our Science community and top Scientists.
This is why the argument they give for why we can trust the Scientific method fall so far short of a convincing reason we can trust the so called
mountain of evidence supporting evolution.
The Scientific method is only as fool proof as the Scientists are honest and evolution science has a long long history of fraud, deceptive, dishonest
cloak and dagger subterfuge even criminal acts against colleagues or anyone questioning the theory of evolution.
Just this past year whammy, senate hearing and a congressional inquest has discovered this is NOT a rumor but in fact it is true and proves once
again, that Atheist running our Science Depts in Public Schools, Museum's etc,. that among them, the Atheist / evolutionist are not only liars,
manipulators but downright crooks and thugs justifying why we Christians have to constantly examine and re-examine so called evolutionary facts that
later turn out to be yet another hoax another scam another lie.
If their is a reason for them to keep religion out of Science, THAT would be it. To make it easier for them to get away with the BS they are known for
and the US senate has proven is true.
Yeah it's a FACT.
If someone spray paints a racist slogan on a family's house, apart from the vandalism, how is that different from the constitutionally protected
right to hold a demonstration in front of the home with signs that say the same thing?
The Christian pastor killed overseas by angry Muslims is just as dead as the Muslim imam killed by racist punks over here who think they're doing
I believe someone should be allowed to stand up and say, in public, "I don't want gay people living in my neighborhood."
THIS isn't about hating gays or the over used allegation of bigotry, this is an issue of morality and is where the slogan for doing right because it
is the right thing to do is not going to work as a slogan for Atheist morality. If they believe in subjectivism like this, then that would explain
the millions of millions of deaths Christians have suffered at the hands of Atheistic regimes. Rather than understand that, what do we see them
doing? Rewriting history again saying Christians burned hundreds of thousands of woman during the Salem witch trials when only a dozen were killed
and most of the Christian community knows this was wrong then as it is now.
Had it not been for Gays obsession for their "in your face" "this is my lover and I have sex with them" style of getting their message across when
their message is none of our damn business, no one asked.
Atheist's have joined them seeing them as a sympathetic ally joining forces using the same logic of liars looped in circular semantics and silly
sophomoric sophistry. The double standards are just as obvious as they have always been where they use the distinction for the common denominator of
pedophiles being priests to attack religion while enlisting the aid of the ACLU, defending the rigths of Atheist sex crimes convicts who wish to have
conjugal visits for consensual sex with boys.
What escapes them is the alarming monumental hypocrisy in that which not only goes unnoticed but rebuffed with the same typical Atheist denial for
taking responsibility for the glaring inconsistencies they have in their agenda. They will argue they don't have an agenda or they aren't a
cohesive group attempting to stay under the radar as Sam Harris has spoken of in his book "The end of Faith".
I don't know who they think they are fooling with all the shenanigans they are about but they are not fooling me and as long as I am observing this
group with a more serious interest, I'll also be watching with more scrutiny making no apologies
for the reasons why
[edit on 30-5-2008 by Conspiriology]