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Why doesn’t our Moon rotate like other moon do in solar system ??

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posted on May, 23 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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The most astonishing thing about the moon is that only one side of it faces Earth.This goes against every law of gravitational pull and motion.And more astonishingly, no one seems to notice or have a clue!



The Facts: No one standing on Earth looking at the moon has ever seen the other side. Doesn’t anyone notice that our moon is the only object in the entire solar system that doesn’t spin (rotate) as it travels around it’s planet or sun.



Now lets all think about this for a second. The Earth and all the other planets spin (rotate) as they travel (revolve) around the sun. The other moons of all the other planets spin as they travel around their planets. What the hell is going on with our moon and why the hell isn’t it spinning!!!! More importantly why isn’t this all over the news, and why the hell doesn’t anyone notice this obvious mind shifting fact. This never even comes up in the populous minds. What about the “question seeking” scientists and Astronomers all over who seem to be un-effected by the strangest object in the entire solar system.


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I think here is the point!!
what you guys think about this? All debunker's at ATS are invited


[edit on 23-5-2008 by 123space]



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 08:49 AM
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Moon Spin Q: Years ago at a science club meeting, I asked why the Moon didn't rotate and my question was dismissed with one word: "gravity". (Albuquerque, New Mexico)

A: The Moon, of course, rotates--at the same speed as it orbits the Earth. So, in the 27.32 days it takes the Moon to go around Earth, the Moon also spins about its axis one full revolution. That's why we always see the same face of the Moon. The moon, 1969, Apollo 12 mission. Photo courtesy of NASA. Now, the interesting part: why does the Moon spin about its axis at the same rate it orbits? In the distant past, the Earth's tidal pull on the Moon slowed the Moon's rotation to match the time it takes to go around Earth. This is tricky stuff. You know about the tides on Earth. The same forces work on the Moon. It isn't obvious there because the Moon lacks water but it happens. The Earth's gravitational attraction is stronger on the side of the Moon nearest to Earth and weaker on the opposite side. Since the Moon isn't perfectly rigid, it stretches out, like a ball of taffy, along the line between Earth and Moon. If we were on the Moon, we could, theoretically, see two bulges--one on the side facing Earth and the other directly opposite. Long ago when the Moon spun much faster, the Moon's tidal bulge preceded the Earth-Moon line because the Moon couldn't "snap back" its bulges quickly enough to keep its bulges in line with Earth, says James Hilton, Astronomer, U.S. Naval Observatory. The rotation swept the bulge beyond the Earth-Moon line. This out-of-line bulge caused a torque, slowing the Moon spin, like a wrench tightening a nut. When the Moon's spin slowed enough to match its orbital rate, then the bulge always faced Earth, the bulge was in line with Earth, and the torque disappeared. That's why the Moon rotates at the same rate as it orbits and we always see the same side of the Moon. In our solar system, almost all moons spin at the same rate as they orbit. We think the exceptions are ex-asteroids captured so recently that tidal forces have not yet equalized the orbital and rotational periods. "Not only did the Earth slow down the Moon's rotation," says Hilton, "but the Moon is slowing down the rotation rate of the Earth." The Moon, being small in relation to Earth, has a long ways to go before it slows Earth's spin rate to the Moon's orbital rate. It will take "twice the age of the solar system", says Hilton. One planet, Pluto, is small enough in relation to its moon that it's already happened. Pluto and its moon both always show the same face to each other.



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posted on May, 23 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by 123space

The most astonishing thing about the moon is that only one side of it faces Earth.This goes against every law of gravitational pull and motion.And more astonishingly, no one seems to notice or have a clue!



No, it doesn't violate any law of gravitational pull or motion. And yes, astronomers have noticed and explained it...


The Moon is in synchronous rotation, meaning that it keeps nearly the same face turned towards the Earth at all times. Early in the Moon's history, its rotation slowed and became locked in this configuration as a result of frictional effects associated with tidal deformations caused by the Earth.[9]

Long ago when the Moon spun much faster, its tidal bulge preceded the Earth-Moon line because it could not "snap back" its bulges quickly enough to keep its bulges in line with Earth.[10] The rotation swept the bulge beyond the Earth-Moon line. This out-of-line bulge caused a torque, slowing the Moon spin, like a wrench tightening a nut. When the Moon's spin slowed enough to match its orbital rate, then the bulge always faced Earth, the bulge was in line with Earth, and the torque disappeared. That is why the Moon rotates at the same rate as it orbits and we always see the same side of the Moon.


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Nor is the moon the only body in the solar system locked in synchronous rotation. Most of the largest moons in the solar system are locked in the same manner, with the exception of Hyperion. Nor does it happen exclusively to moons: Pluto and Charon are tidally locked to each other.

In the future, I would recommend not taking the claims of a UFO blog at face-value, and doing some research on your own, before you scoff at "debunkers."

[edit on 23-5-2008 by SaviorComplex]



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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The Moon is in synchronous rotation, meaning that it keeps nearly the same face turned towards the Earth at all times. Early in the Moon's history, its rotation slowed and became locked in this configuration as a result of frictional effects associated with tidal deformations caused by the Earth.


tidal deformations caused by the Earth???? WHAT was the cause behind it



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by 123space
tidal deformations caused by the Earth???? WHAT was the cause behind it?


Simply put, gravity.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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30 seconds on Google....


Just as the Moon raises tides on Earth, Earth also produces a tidal bulge in the Moon. Because Earth is so much more massive, the tidal force on the Moon is about 20 times greater than that on Earth, and the Moon's tidal bulge is correspondingly larger. In Chapter 7 we saw how lunar tidal forces are causing Earth's spin to slow and how, as a result, Earth will eventually rotate on its axis at the same rate as the Moon revolves around Earth. (Sec. 7.6) Earth's rotation will not become synchronous with the Earth—Moon orbital period for hundreds of billions of years. In the case of the Moon, however, the process has already gone to completion. The Moon's much larger tidal deformation caused it to evolve into a synchronous orbit long ago, and the Moon is said to have become tidally locked to Earth. Most of the moons in the solar system are similarly locked by the tidal fields of their parent planets. Source


Probably a lot more....this was pretty good though. In essence, the gravitational force of the Earth causes the near side of the Moon to "bulge" ever so slightly.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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Tidal locking is not uncommon in the solar system. Our moon, Pluto's and Charon, in fact most big moons are tidal locked. Many binary stars are thought to be too.
Mechanisms for tidal locking from Wikipedia:


The change in rotation rate necessary to tidally lock a body B to a larger body A is caused by the torque applied by A's gravity on bulges it has induced on B by tidal forces.

Tidal bulges: A's gravity produces a tidal force on B which distorts its gravitational equilibrium shape slightly so that it becomes stretched along the axis oriented toward A, and conversely, is slightly compressed in the two perpendicular directions. These distortions are known as tidal bulges. When B is not yet tidally locked, the bulges travel over its surface, with one of the two "high" tidal bulges traveling close to the point where body A is overhead. For large astronomical bodies which are near-spherical due to self-gravitation, the tidal distortion produces a slightly prolate spheroid or ellipsoid. Smaller bodies also experience distortion, but this distortion is less regular.

Bulge dragging: The material of B exerts resistance to this periodic reshaping caused by the tidal force. In effect, some time is required to reshape B to the gravitational equilibrium shape, by which time the forming bulges have already been carried some distance away from the A-B axis by B's rotation. Seen from a vantage point in space, the points of maximum bulge extension are displaced from the axis oriented towards A. If B's rotation period is shorter than its orbital period, the bulges are carried forward of the axis oriented towards A in the direction of rotation, whereas if B's orbital period is shorter the bulges lag behind instead.

Resulting torque: Since the bulges are now displaced from the A-B axis, A's gravitational pull on the mass in them exerts a torque on B. The torque on the A-facing bulge acts to bring B's rotation in line with its orbital period, while the "back" bulge which faces away from A acts in the opposite sense. However, the bulge on the A-facing side is closer to A than the back bulge by a distance of approximately B's diameter, and so experiences a slightly stronger gravitational force and torque. The net resulting torque from both bulges, then, is always in the direction which acts to synchronize B's rotation with its orbital period, leading eventually to tidal locking.

Orbital changes: The angular momentum of the whole A-B system is conserved in this process, so that when B slows down and loses rotational angular momentum, its orbital angular momentum is boosted by a similar amount (there are also some smaller effects on A's rotation). This results in a raising of B's orbit about A in tandem with its rotational slowdown. For the other case where B starts off rotating too slowly, tidal locking both speeds up its rotation, and lowers its orbit.

Locking of the larger body: The tidal locking effect is also experienced by the larger body A, but at a slower rate because B's gravitational effect is weaker due to B's smaller size. For example, the Earth's rotation is gradually slowing down because of the Moon, by an amount that becomes noticeable over geological time in some fossils. For similar sized bodies the effect may be of comparable size for both, and both may become tidally locked to each other. The dwarf planet Pluto and its satellite Charon are good examples of this— Charon is only visible from one hemisphere of Pluto and vice versa.

Rotation-Orbit resonance: Finally, in some cases where the orbit is eccentric and the tidal effect is relatively weak, the smaller body may end up in an orbital resonance, rather than tidally locked. Here the ratio of rotation period to orbital period is some well-defined fraction different from 1:1. A well known case is the rotation of Mercury—locked to its orbit around the Sun in a 3:2 resonance.



posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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i was reading one of the threda talking about ufos "Top level NASA research scientist regarding UFOs" www.abovetopsecret.com...
in that thread the guy who started that thread had interview with

Dr. Edward V. Browell who has a 31-year career as a research scientist at NASA and works at the NASA Langley Research Center. Mr. Browell is an awarded Fellow of the American Meteorological Society (AMS) and is only the second current Langley employee to be awarded that honor.


So in that interview he told same question

He pointed out that the Moon revolves around with the Earth so that we only see one side of the Moon.


so what you guys think about if after this ????



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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The reason why the Moon doesn’t rotate is because of weights that are placed at both poles which are magnetic in nature. There are 4 pyramids on the Moon, with 1 being at the far sides equator.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by 123space
so what you guys think about if after this ????


There are people out here willing to help you. Look at their links.

What grade are you in, by the way?



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10
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The reason why the Moon doesn’t rotate is because of weights that are placed at both poles which are magnetic in nature. There are 4 pyramids on the Moon, with 1 being at the far sides equator.


And that explanation makes more sense than the natural, logical and scientifically sound one?



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10
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The reason why the Moon doesn’t rotate is because of weights that are placed at both poles which are magnetic in nature. There are 4 pyramids on the Moon, with 1 being at the far sides equator.


...so says Alex Collier (aka Ralph Amigron).

Nuff said.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by 123space

So in that interview he told same question

He pointed out that the Moon revolves around with the Earth so that we only see one side of the Moon.


so what you guys think about if after this ????


I think it's absolutely right, it does revolve around with the Earth so we only see one side. Because it's tidally locked, as everyone else has pointed out, except for the guy with the weird pyramid post.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Unidentified_Objective

Originally posted by Anunaki10
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The reason why the Moon doesn’t rotate is because of weights that are placed at both poles which are magnetic in nature. There are 4 pyramids on the Moon, with 1 being at the far sides equator.

And that explanation makes more sense than the natural, logical and scientifically sound one?

Not all official scientific explanations are necessarily always right, www.alexcollier.org...

The reason we only see one side of the Moon is by design. The dark side of the Moon truly represents a dark secret of how long extraterrestrials have been watching the Earth. Weights have been placed inside the planet to keep it from rotating on a normal basis, and they are located at both poles. They are magnetic weights which keep it stationary. It will turn like this, they keep it stationary. Being that they are magnets, it bounces off the Earth’s gravitational pull just enough to keep it just moving outside. So it doesn’t actually get totally caught up to what it will turn like this. This was to keep mankind unsuspecting of the alien presence for thousands, and thousands of years. When the astronauts of Apollo got there we have already been on the Moon for sometime. The NSA using technology given to it by the Greys had already established eight years earlier a colony there. This technology and information was not shared with the lower levels of NASA or even the military. NASA was used as a blind to keep the people from truly knowing what was going on out there. The astronauts were silenced under threats and they remain so even today. Richard Hoagland, who many as you may know about, has done a lot of extensive work on the area known as Cydonia on Mars. He’s also doing a lot of things about the Moon now, and I would suggest that all of you pay attention to that. Because he can get photographs and things of that nature, and it’s going to be very interesting to see how this whole thing unveils itself. It’s beginning to unveil, it definitely is. Some of the greatest scientific minds on our planet that have disappeared, people who have vanished without a trace, were taken to the Moon and Mars to colonize, to start a brand new society. We’re talking about engineers, architects from every walk of life. What I am going to do now is I am going to play the second tape.

Q: What do the pyramids represent?

A: The pyramids were used on planets to balance its wobble, it’s elliptical wobble. All planets because of their hollowness tend to wobble and not stay on their axis. By placing pyramids at strategic points like you would place weights on a tire; the weights that are placed on your attire to keep it from wobbling. This is exactly the same concept except that they would use stone pyramids.

Q: So it’s just the weight that balances that?

A: That’s right, that’s originally what they were constructed for. That’s what they tell me.

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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Not all official scientific explanations are necessarily always right,



But in this case, given a choice between tides (very well understood) or mystery aliens putting weights on the Moon, I'm going with tides.

My other theory is that flying monkeys came out of Nibiru and are holding the moon in place by flapping really hard. It's a better theory than pyramid weights.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Physics says that the whole magnets on the pole theory is not plausible. A real joke, really.

The inertia, speed and sheer mass of the moon would be too much for any magnets placed on the moon in an attempt to keep it from spinning. Also, gravitational fields are not the same thing as magnetic fields.And even if you had repelling magnets that worked....again, the inertia from the moon's mass would simply be too much for invisible magnets that we can't see with our telescopes. They would perhaps need to be powered magnets. And let me tell you, something powerful enough to defeat the inertia caused by the moon's mass and movement, would require a huge amount of power. Where's it coming from, exactly? Here on the west coast, we go through rolling blackouts in the summers just because more people turn on their air conditioners. You telling me we built something with enough power required to charge magnets strong enough to fight the moon's inertia and earth's gravitational effect on the moon?

I say logic dictates that this theory is a bunch of crap. No offense.
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posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Bedlam


My other theory is that flying monkeys came out of Nibiru and are holding the moon in place by flapping really hard. It's a better theory than pyramid weights.


Debunked!!!!!

There's not enough air on the moon for wings to push against so the back and forth motion would just cancel out.


The monkeys have rocket back packs instead!



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Unidentified_Objective
Physics says that the whole magnets on the pole theory is not plausible.

You don't know what you are talking about



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by Unidentified_Objective
Physics says that the whole magnets on the pole theory is not plausible.

You don't know what you are talking about


Please elaborate....oh enlightened one.



posted on Dec, 29 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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Simple (although plenty of others have linked to very good explanations) - it's like tying a string around a stone and twirling it in circles over your head. The mutual attraction will keep the same side of the stone always facing your head.

The Earth-moon gravitational "string" is tugging on the same side of the moon, a beautiful dance that has taken billions of years to form. It's not that hard to understand.

Now, my questions for you, 123...:

1. Did you even attempt to look up this answer before posting here?

2. Why is this thread in the Aliens/UFO forum?

3. Several ATS members went to a bit of trouble to do your homework for you and pasted in the answer to your question - easily found on many web sites. Would you care to respond - perhaps even thank them?

(wow)




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