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Ron Paul: Obama Presidency will not bring change

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posted on May, 22 2008 @ 03:24 PM

Sadly I fear, he is 100% correct. I have been saying the exact same thing for the past several months now. We have been hood-winked once again by TPTB and their complicitory propagandistical brain-washing mouthpiece--The main stream media.

"They" chose for us who would continue on "their" agendas, and NONE of these people will turn around the mess that we are in...

This is really disheartening IMO...

Presidential candidate, Congressman and now New York Times Bestseller Ron Paul appeared on the Alex Jones show this week to discuss a plethora of issues including the lack of choice and opportunity for real change offered by the three remaining candidates.

Speaking of HIllary, McCain and Obama, the Congressman said:

"There really is no choice there, they all belong to the same group, they are beholden to the military industrial complex and the medical industry, the media industry, the whole works, the banking industry.The rhetoric is different but they're all after power and there is not going to be a lot of difference."

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posted on May, 22 2008 @ 03:29 PM
Nobodies presidency... even Ron Paul's will bring change... they are by necessity part of the status quo if they get so far as the presidency.

posted on May, 22 2008 @ 03:34 PM

You can expect this to get about three dozen flags from ATS!

At work and in life I pay close attention to those who are so quick to say change is impossible... usually that just means it's impossible for them and their interests.

posted on May, 22 2008 @ 03:40 PM
reply to post by kosmicjack

I am not saying change is impossible... it most certainly is but if it comes from the status quo power bases like the courts, the presidency or congress (or industry) then you know good and well that they are looking after their interests first and foremost... if the rest of us benefit then its by default... that is all.

If we want change we have to make it for ourselves.

posted on May, 22 2008 @ 09:27 PM
We're not going to see any change in this country because we don't demand change. Change is not impossible but why should our goverment change if we don't force them to ? We have sat back and let them take our rights away from us little by little, take our country away from us for far too long.

We have become complacent, fearful,in some cases brainwashed. There are those that mumble thier complaints, but the complaints fall on deaf ears. We want our freedoms back, our econmy to get better,our country back, sittin around gripin about it aint gonna acomplish jack, we have to fight for it. But then again we have allowed them to pass that damn patriot act, which makes us terrorists if we even SPEAK of fighting for our rights.

Many americans have taken the mentality of well at least we're not as bad off as this country, or that country. As least we have more rights than this country, or that country. And that's just the kind of mentality that our goverment likes. Pretty soon this country will be worse off than other countries, and we will have LESS rights than other countries. What many don't see is the fact that this country is no longer what it was originally meant to be, what so many men died to make it be. This is no longer the land of the free,home of the brave. Brave enough to do what, sit back and let them continue to ruin this country ? Free to do what,whatever they tell us we can do ?

We can't look to the politicians to change things because they're not gonna do it, unless it's a change for the worse. They don't care about this country anymore, or the people. All they care about is how much money they can put in thier bank account and how good they look to other countries. They sold us out long ago, and the few good ones that do actually care can't get enough votes, hell some can't even get on the ballads.

Pay attention, what are people talking about ? He's a muslim, she's an elitest, he's older than dirt. His pastor is a racist anti american, his pastor thinks hitler was great, his wife said this, her husband did that, etc blah, blah, blah.

Do people even pay attention to how these politicians do thier jobs anymore, how they vote, what they do for this country instead of to it ?

We let party lines divide us, instead of letting the good of the country bring us together.

Our goverment has become so corrupted, and we the people allowed that, and we are the only thing that can fix it. Read what our founding fathers wrote, they told us what needed to be done should this ever happen.

posted on May, 22 2008 @ 09:30 PM
Change is a matter of degree.

I don't expect the kind of major changes from an Obama Presidency I would from a Ron Paul Presidency, but I do expect to see a significant change in direction from the Bush administration.

Notably less authoritarianism at home, and a far less aggressive foriegn policy.

I respect Ron Paul, but he tried to turn the party of Empire and the country back on a course towards the Republic it was intended to be, and failed. Not surprising considering the powerful interests that were arrayed against him.

But better some change than no change, and a McCain Presidency is going to be four years of Bush Lite - no change at all...

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:12 AM
Ron Paul is correct.

Mr. Change/Hope/Unity just offers the same corruption and lies that have been running Washington for all these years. Obama just puts a pretty bow on top and people smoke the hope-ium and buy into the rhetoric.

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 06:26 AM
True, gotta agree with paul on this one. Its sad, but no change is gonna happen until we demand it at gun point. No good has ever come about in this country without massive uprising and the threat of violence. Every gain that has been had, womens sufferage, equal opportunity, african american freedom, labor laws, all came about with the blood of innocents, as the government used police and soldiers to try to keep these rights from people. soldiers have killed strikers working for safe conditions, soldiers have killed students protesting wars. Government agents have assassinated leaders of peaceful movements. It is usually only when citizens in large groups take up arms that true change is made, and with each year now they are making it harder and harder for us to organize and fight back in any reasonable way. But as they say "those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable".

posted on May, 28 2008 @ 07:47 AM
So,People, write in Ron Paul for President. We still have the right of the write-in vote. So, go for it. And let's see if we can affect some real change. Use the courage of your convictions.


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